StrangeSox Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Take this b. Hussein Obama talk to the right thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Also I just read the book this afternoon. There us obviously political undercurrents in the story, but drawing direct analogies to relatively recent us political narratives seems kinda stretching it. It isn't a blatantly obvious allegory like animal farm or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 02:16 PM) Yes. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-20/j...ama-donors.html The concept of the noble and just Obama presidency is nothing but a fairy tale perpetuated by a marketing campaign. Of course not. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46172017/ And how much have they already given to Romney? If you don't think Wall Street's on Romney's side in this election...well...they have no choice but to cover both bases, and since Mitt's been so inept, their has to be increasing worry that Obama might actually win despite the high unemployment numbers and unpopularity of the health care plan's mandates. Edited March 26, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Read the books last year, just saw the movie. My verdict: It plays to it's audience, young adults. Edited March 26, 2012 by Quinarvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 07:26 PM) Also I just read the book this afternoon. There us obviously political undercurrents in the story, but drawing direct analogies to relatively recent us political narratives seems kinda stretching it. It isn't a blatantly obvious allegory like animal farm or something. i haven't read the book or seen the movie. but i'm sure the villains are inspired by Obama/Democrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 08:50 PM) i haven't read the book or seen the movie. but i'm sure the villains are inspired by Obama/Democrats And this was the most asinine comment in the thread, especially considering they're more inspired by Hitler and King Minos. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you're "sure" of something. Especially considering the book came out before Obama was elected, or else I'll go ahead and say 1984's villains are clearly based on Bush/Republicans. Edited March 26, 2012 by Quinarvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 It must be about the Romney's, because they went to the movie. Therefore, guilty by association. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...the-day-hungry/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 09:04 PM) It must be about the Romney's, because they went to the movie. Therefore, guilty by association. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...the-day-hungry/ kind of like the criminal that goes to the scene of the crime to reminisce. that does make sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 09:02 PM) And this was the most asinine comment in the thread, especially considering they're more inspired by Hitler and King Minos. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you're "sure" of something. Especially considering the book came out before Obama was elected, or else I'll go ahead and say 1984's villains are clearly based on Bush/Republicans. ^^^ trolled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 08:02 PM) And this was the most asinine comment in the thread, especially considering they're more inspired by Hitler and King Minos. Seriously, know what you're talking about before you're "sure" of something. Especially considering the book came out before Obama was elected, or else I'll go ahead and say 1984's villains are clearly based on Bush/Republicans. I'm pretty sure Marty34 doesn't like KW. "If we win, who would be in charge of the government?" Gale asks. "Everyone," Plutarch tells him. "We're going to form a republic where the people of each district and the Capitol can elect their own representatives to be their voice in a centralized government. Don't look so suspicious; its worked before." "In books," Haymitch mutters. "In history books," says Plutarch. "And if our ancestors could do it, then we can, too. Frankly, our ancestors don't seem much to brag about. I mean, look at the state they left us in, with the wars and the broken planet. Clearly,they didn't care about what would happen to the people who came after them. But this republic idea sounds like an improvement over our current government." Edited March 26, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 It is impossible to become POTUS without donations from the very people who will be affected later by government policies. It seems weirder to me to have someone donate, and a politician accept, donations from someone they disagree with and not accept donations from people they agree with. So later it should come as no surprise that the elected official sides with the same people who donated to his campaign. Which is why I favor knowing everyone who donates, even if they do it behind and through a PAC or other such vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 08:50 PM) i haven't read the book or seen the movie. but i'm sure the villains are inspired by Obama/Democrats The GOP pats your head and pins a ribbon on your shirt. You have successfully completed the program! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Book 2 so far bears striking similarities to a NatGeo documentary I saw about NK, how this one guy made one minor mistake and knew he had to flee for his life, escaping under an electrified fence and his knowing that the family he left behind was likely dead or in a concentration camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Also, Racist Hunger Games Fans Are Very Disappointed Some samples: Adding to the irony of the overt racism is that the book explicitly describes Rue as dark-skinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) Also, Racist Hunger Games Fans Are Very Disappointed Some samples: Adding to the irony of the overt racism is that the book explicitly describes Rue as dark-skinned. haha how did you even find that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 08:13 PM) haha how did you even find that? Been posted on yahoo and other sites about people making racist comments with the characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) Also, Racist Hunger Games Fans Are Very Disappointed Some samples: Adding to the irony of the overt racism is that the book explicitly describes Rue as dark-skinned. I missed that part, so it's my bad, guess I was reading it too quickly and missed that description of her character completely (of course, dark-skinned could be Dominican, Mexican, Native-American, Haitian, etc.). I guess it makes sense, as both of the representatives from District 11 were African-American...that it has to be some region of the country like the Southeast, that wide swath from North Carolina south and west through AL/MS/LA. Who knows? If District 12 was supposedly like WV/Appalachia/Kentucky, and the Capitol was Denver/Rocky Mountains...and District 13 would logically be Washington, D.C./Maryland/Camp David, the former capital. http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/r...-182705585.html Controversy over Hunger Games casting... http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/quot-the...BHRlc3QD;_ylv=3 Other movies with arguments over race-based casting, starting with Last Airbender Edited March 28, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 That the text explicitly says she is dark-skinned provides humor to the disgusting racism of the comments. If the book was race-ambiguous, why is it such a terrible thing for her to be black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 27, 2012 -> 10:37 PM) That the text explicitly says she is dark-skinned provides humor to the disgusting racism of the comments. If the book was race-ambiguous, why is it such a terrible thing for her to be black? Yeah, Rue and Thresh we're specifically mentioned as dark skinned. And Cinna, well, I imagined him as white. But it's never said and who can complain about Lenny Kravitz? He was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Cinna=cinnamon=persian or arab in my mind but it isn't right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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