ZoomSlowik Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Pretty crazy comeback by Arizona to knock off the Gators in the final minute. Definitely no powerhouse teams this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 11:11 PM) Pretty crazy comeback by Arizona to knock off the Gators in the final minute. Definitely no powerhouse teams this year. GANGSTAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) Honestly, no one in the B1G has proven much outside of Illinois and slighty Minny. Indy was overrated at one and also beat the country's two most overrated teams. OSU and Mich, not much there. But all five are top ten in the country. Rankings dont mean s*** right now. OSU has been spanking mid-level tourney teams and got beat at Cameron. Play Kansas next week. Michigan looks like a powerhouse and Illinois has beated some quality opponents. I personally think all 4 teams (IU included) are #1-3 seeds in the tourney which places them mostly in the top 10. If the conference slate eats on of them up then they fall a bit but the conference has some very very high quality teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 10:41 PM) No, I agree with you. I was just wondering what sort of team you think of as the gold standard. For the past 5 years everyone on this board has said there is no powerhouse team, I wouldnt worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) For the past 5 years everyone on this board has said there is no powerhouse team, I wouldnt worry about it. I would think most would consider Kentucky from last year a powerhouse. UNC (when Marshall was healthy) and Syracuse were pretty good too. Hell, I'd probably take that OSU team over the options this year, we'll see how some of these teams look during conference play. Edited December 16, 2012 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Apparently Crean has been complaining that the refs hurt Indiana in the game yesterday as well as a supposedly pro-Butler crowd. I don't have a link, it was recited to me. Complaining that they got no "50-50 calls" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hey, Illinois. You can blow these guys out, if ya want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Nah, I took EKU +14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 05:52 PM) Hey, Illinois. You can blow these guys out, if ya want. Sweet Jebus, that must have been a thrilling first half if it's 25-20 in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) Sweet Jebus, that must have been a thrilling first half if it's 25-20 in the second half. Apparently we can't shoot well vs these lesser teams. Just pull out the W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 06:38 PM) Apparently we can't shoot well vs these lesser teams. Just pull out the W. We're just saving all the makes for this Saturday...right? Pretty ugly, but at least they put it together down the stretch. What'd we end up with, 35 turnovers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 +14 spread. I win by picking EKU Centsports ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 09:54 PM) The field just lacks any truly scary teams This is what it will look like early in the season every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) This is what it will look like early in the season every year. That's true. When you think of last year's dominant Kentucky team, you don't think of their December version, but the March/April one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) I would think most would consider Kentucky from last year a powerhouse. UNC (when Marshall was healthy) and Syracuse were pretty good too. Hell, I'd probably take that OSU team over the options this year, we'll see how some of these teams look during conference play. Not a chance. The same thing was said last year and the year before and so on. Nobody thinks anyone is a powerhouse until after the season. Kentucky lost at IU and was exposed, then the same happened to OSU. College bball is crazy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 09:57 AM) Not a chance. The same thing was said last year and the year before and so on. Nobody thinks anyone is a powerhouse until after the season. Kentucky lost at IU and was exposed, then the same happened to OSU. College bball is crazy like that. Nah, UK and UNC were both thought to be great teams entering last year, they both had multiple NBA lottery prospects on them (so did UConn, who was 3 or 4 in most places, but they underachieved). I wouldn't say Kentucky was "exposed" by Indiana, Davis was in foul trouble, Jones had a horrible game and IU still needed a buzzer-beater to beat them at home. UNC a bit moreso with the UNLV game, but s*** happens over the course of 30-35 games. If the bar for a "powerhouse" is going undefeated, yeah, there hasn't been one in a while. That's a bit too high though. Admittedly you don't REALLY know until March like you said because teams do choke (2010 Kansas and Kentucky come to mind). However, people certainly crown them long before that. Perhaps "clear favorite" would be a better term than "powerhouse". There is one of those most years, and I really don't see one this year. Edited December 17, 2012 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jay Bilas sez Indiana is not a top 25 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 11:54 AM) Jay Bilas sez Indiana is not a top 25 team. Weird. Where'd he say that at? I usually love Bilas' insights and opinions but that's silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 11:54 AM) Jay Bilas sez Indiana is not a top 25 team. That is just trolling for hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 12:17 PM) That is just trolling for hits. Yup, call out a team that JUST lost in heartbreaking fashion and has one of the crazier fanbases in the nation and you are a troll regardless of your title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 12:31 PM) Yup, call out a team that JUST lost in heartbreaking fashion and has one of the crazier fanbases in the nation and you are a troll regardless of your title. Not 25 is just stupid. You could argue not #1, or not top 5, but seriously there are 25 better teams in the nation than IU? Please. That is just someone looking to run up their hit count and be talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Definitely all for hits. They return the same team, plus more as they had year (which was a borderline top 10 team). Surprised it's Bilas saying that though. I think he's a great analyst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) Weird. Where'd he say that at? I usually love Bilas' insights and opinions but that's silly. Yeah, Bilas is one of my favorites. The only time it gets a little annoying is with his Duke homerism, but I'll give a guy a little slack if it's the team he played for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 He resubmitted his ballot with Indiana at six. In other crazy ESPN rankings though, Katz put butler sixth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jabari Brown makes his MU debut tonight. Very excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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