Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 1, 2012 -> 05:00 AM) The Marlins just aren't hitting. But his ERA's about what most expected in the NL, 3.34. The defense behind him hasn't been very good, either. Sounds disturbingly familiar. Let me guess, lots of outs on basepaths too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Put on your seatbelts here, Marlins' fans. Even in a mop-up situation yesterday, Heath Bell got rocked and almost completely melted down with walks, HBP, hits everywhere around the diamond...he gave up 2 more runs last night. Giants down by 1 in the bottom of the 8th. Leadoff hitter on with a double. Would be 9 losses in 10 games if they blow this. Sac bunt, catcher throws the ball into the dirt when he underestimates how fast Angel Pagan really is....Blanco on 3rd, Pagan on 1st now, no outs still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) Ozzie is just taking the long way on his path to many Marlins championships. I'm now tuning in. Thanks for the heads up. Ozzie's move works. Posey hit into a double play. The man is a baseball genius. Edited May 2, 2012 by MAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 And Bell had a 1-2-3 ninth. Maybe he got confused and still thought he was pitching in the NL West out in Frisco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 11:55 AM) My favorite part of this story is that he's getting hell for an opinion of his that isn't popular with a group of people. Can anyone think of another place that punishes people for the expression of their beliefs if they stray too far from, or run contrary to an accepted norm? Fidel Castro's Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) The whole freedom of speech thing means that when someone exercises their right to say something stupid, everyone has the right to tell that person that they said something stupid. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Giancarlo is sucking badly so far this season and he's leading our team in batting average.. Oy vey!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ May 2, 2012 -> 04:07 PM) Giancarlo is sucking badly so far this season and he's leading our team in batting average.. Oy vey!! You know you're really a Sox fan and not a Marlins fan right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 QUOTE (Tmar @ May 2, 2012 -> 04:15 PM) You know you're really a Sox fan and not a Marlins fan right? the sox are my american league team and the marlins are my national league team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 That's 3 wins that Heath Bell has now cost Big Z. I'd watch my back in the locker room if I were him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:27 AM) That's 3 wins that Heath Bell has now cost Big Z. I'd watch my back in the locker room if I were him. I'm not big on the ins and outs of WAR, ERA+, and whatever, but at some point, they just need to ditch won/loss record altogther. At the end of the day, teams know how good you are without looking at your win/loss record. Zambrano won't lose a dime because of this. Might as well just discontinue the practice of assigning decisions. I like quality starts but know that not all of them are equal. I go--quality starts, IP, WHIP, K/BB ratio, and ERA. The way I look at it, if you make 33 starts and 20 are quality, with 210 innings, you've done your part on the team. The rest of the numbers take care of themselves. Edited May 3, 2012 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 But dude, that's talking about Zambrano... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) I'm not big on the ins and outs of WAR, ERA+, and whatever, but at some point, they just need to ditch won/loss record altogther. At the end of the day, teams know how good you are without looking at your win/loss record. Zambrano won't lose a dime because of this. Might as well just discontinue the practice of assigning decisions. I like quality starts but know that not all of them are equal. I go--quality starts, IP, WHIP, K/BB ratio, and ERA. The way I look at it, if you make 33 starts and 20 are quality, with 210 innings, you've done your part on the team. The rest of the numbers take care of themselves. I agree with everything you said. But as Balta said, it's Carlos Zambrano, all bets are off with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 3, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) I agree with everything you said. But as Balta said, it's Carlos Zambrano, all bets are off with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Marlins scored 5 in the 1st inning. Josh Johnson gave up 6 in the 3rd to the Padres. That guy ain't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) Heath Bell, blows yet another save. Edited May 5, 2012 by justBLAZE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 5, 2012 -> 12:28 AM) Heath Bell, blows yet another save. Whose likely to take over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Mujica got the save last time...somehow the Marlins won it in extras. At least when they blow a save the roof doesn't always cave in completely like with Santos and the White Sox saves the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ May 5, 2012 -> 01:13 AM) Whose likely to take over? they really like steve cishek, he's got balls of steel, but ozzie uses him like crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ May 4, 2012 -> 10:52 PM) Marlins scored 5 in the 1st inning. Josh Johnson gave up 6 in the 3rd to the Padres. That guy ain't right. Josh Johnson probably isn't healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ May 5, 2012 -> 06:59 PM) they really like steve cishek, he's got balls of steel, but ozzie uses him like crazy So they wasted $27 million on a crappy closer... Cishek's got some great numbers, s***, he was better than Heath Bell last year. I don't see the Marlins going back to Bell anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Plus his name sounds like Pat Neshek, reminding Ozzie of a former Piranha who always had our number while he was healthy. Clayton Richard and Mark Buehrle both throw an excellent game, both with only one run surrendered...Buehrle's ERA under 3 now, can't use Chishek until Tuesday's game according to Ozzie because of overuse the last few games. Edited May 6, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 4-1 Marlins going to the bottom of the 9th. Buehrle still in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Complete game for Buehrle. Great first month for him in a Marlins uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ May 6, 2012 -> 02:53 AM) Complete game for Buehrle. Great first month for him in a Marlins uniform. Great is too strong a word for how he's been. He feasted off of some of the worst offenses in the NL so far. There's no question he'll be a low 3 ERA guy in the NL this year, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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