greg775 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 11:52 PM) Haha hell no. As long as KW and Coop are in this organization, Ozzie ain't coming back. I personally think Oz is a lot more likeable than grumpy Coop, whose pitching staff just sucked the last three weeks BTW. But Coop gets a free pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 09:25 PM) I personally think Oz is a lot more likeable than grumpy Coop, whose pitching staff just sucked the last three weeks BTW. But Coop gets a free pass. Well thankfully the Sox hire based on results instead of affability and all around friendliness. And Coops last three weeks was still better than Ozzies entire season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 09:34 PM) Well thankfully the Sox hire based on results instead of affability and all around friendliness. And Coops last three weeks was still better than Ozzies entire season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 10:25 PM) I personally think Oz is a lot more likeable than grumpy Coop, whose pitching staff just sucked the last three weeks BTW. But Coop gets a free pass. To go along with the previous posts saying that personality doesn't matter....I find Coop to be a really likeable guy. I really enjoy listening to Coop at the Cork when I get a chance. I'd much rather spend a day with Coop, but I'm a pretty low key guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 11:32 PM) To go along with the previous posts saying that personality doesn't matter....I find Coop to be a really likeable guy. I really enjoy listening to Coop at the Cork when I get a chance. I'd much rather spend a day with Coop, but I'm a pretty low key guy. That is ridiculous, every time Coop talks he comes off as a dueschbag but the guy is a damn good pitching coach and as long as he isn't making a big fuss and providing results its ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 07:51 AM) That is ridiculous, every time Coop talks he comes off as a dueschbag but the guy is a damn good pitching coach and as long as he isn't making a big fuss and providing results its ok. Don Cooper is a condescending ass to the general public and media. I don't know if he is different to "his guys", but he doesn't really care what people outside of the organization think of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 07:57 AM) Don Cooper is a condescending ass to the general public and media. I don't know if he is different to "his guys", but he doesn't really care what people outside of the organization think of him. In all actuality Cooper is an affable guy to the general public. He is not this way to the media. I have been to his remote shows and to a dinner he spoke at and the the guy is pretty cool. I get the feeling he just thinks Hanley is a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) In all actuality Cooper is an affable guy to the general public. He is not this way to the media. I have been to his remote shows and to a dinner he spoke at and the the guy is pretty cool. I get the feeling he just thinks Hanley is a tool. Cooper generally doesnt like people asking him questions about his methods, results, and guys. He is a grouch to Rongey too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 08:47 AM) Cooper generally doesnt like people asking him questions about his methods, results, and guys. He is a grouch to Rongey too Even more reason for Greg to dislike him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 05:52 PM) Haha hell no. As long as KW and Coop are in this organization, Ozzie ain't coming back. Ozzie burned more bridges than any other coach who has left the Sox. There is 0% chance that he is anywhere near this coaching staff. He also burned alot of bridges internal to the Sox by treating them like downright dogs*** before he got his way and was traded. Ripping Frank Thomas the way he did never sat well with many of the old guard as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Williams wasn't exactly gracious to Frank Thomas at the end of his time here either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 08:51 AM) That is ridiculous, every time Coop talks he comes off as a dueschbag but the guy is a damn good pitching coach and as long as he isn't making a big fuss and providing results its ok. Granted I only listen after a win so I may not see the dbag side of him but I find him enjoyable....He's your typical new yorker, that new york accent may make everything sound douchey....I've got family from NY that visits every other year, I got an uncle who reminds me a lot of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 09:29 PM) Granted I only listen after a win so I may not see the dbag side of him but I find him enjoyable....He's your typical new yorker, that new york accent may make everything sound douchey....I've got family from NY that visits every other year, I got an uncle who reminds me a lot of him. Cooper doesn't come across as a saint in crawling to the owner or GM to save his own hide during the end of the Oz regime though I realize that is a controversial topic, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 04:15 PM) Cooper doesn't come across as a saint in crawling to the owner or GM to save his own hide during the end of the Oz regime though I realize that is a controversial topic, too. Like Ozzie did multiple times? Including last year when he asked for an extension on his current deal? You are such a hypocrite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 03:22 PM) which technically would make greg a celebrity. s*** Greg Says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 10:04 PM) Like Ozzie did multiple times? Including last year when he asked for an extension on his current deal? You are such a hypocrite I said that topic was controversial as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Not that anybody cares about the Marlins anymore that Oz is gonzo...scuttlebutt our here is GONZO (Luis Gonzalez) might get a look. He's the polar opposite of Ozzie. Great baseball mind, great with media, Cuban.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 25, 2012 -> 03:57 AM) Not that anybody cares about the Marlins anymore that Oz is gonzo...scuttlebutt our here is GONZO (Luis Gonzalez) might get a look. He's the polar opposite of Ozzie. Great baseball mind, great with media, Cuban.... He sounds great. Robin has proven you don't need a lifelong baseball guy to be a winning manager. More teams are going to turn to ex players. That's why the Royals should have hired Frank White long ago. Idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 11:14 PM) He sounds great. Robin has proven you don't need a lifelong baseball guy to be a winning manager. More teams are going to turn to ex players. That's why the Royals should have hired Frank White long ago. Idiots. Robin pretty much is a baseball lifer...he only retired in 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 10:57 PM) Not that anybody cares about the Marlins anymore that Oz is gonzo...scuttlebutt our here is GONZO (Luis Gonzalez) might get a look. He's the polar opposite of Ozzie. Great baseball mind, great with media, Cuban.... I will say it here first, unless the Marlins sell off, they will improve by 10 games next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Does that mean the dedicated Miami Marlins thread is going bye bye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 25, 2012 -> 11:17 AM) Does that mean the dedicated Miami Marlins thread is going bye bye? We can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Marlins made sharp move hiring Mike Redmond as their manager, who long has been considered strong managerial material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I give him 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 06:49 PM) I give him 2 years As long as he acts professional, sucks up to Loria and his minions and never cusses, he should be fine. It's pretty darn obvious Ozzie did not play the game and bother sucking up to Loria and after the dressing down to the media, bye bye Ozzie. I wonder if Ozzie will go manage in Japan. It's going to be tough for him to get a managerial job again after being Loria-ized. Or will Ozzie agree to be a bench coach somewhere? Edited November 1, 2012 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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