Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) He does not have a 50+ inch vertical. And even if he did, that means nothing in baseball. Viciedo can play power forward, Cespedes can be the PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) He does not have a 50+ inch vertical. And even if he did, that means nothing in baseball. Catch up to that high fastball with his jump swing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) Sorry, 45 inches, just a little hyperbole and overexaggeration. But that's still better or comparable with Michael Jordan. Maybe only Spud Webb, before he became a topless womens' strip club-sponsored basketball coach, and a few others top that. Edited April 8, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) Catch up to that high fastball with his jump swing... It worked for Pods and Ichiro, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) Sorry, 45 inches, just a little hyperbole and overexaggeration. But that's still better or comparable with Michael Jordan. Maybe only Spud Webb, before he became a topless girls girls basketball coach, and a few others top that. All those guys were great baseball players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:29 PM) Viciedo can play power forward, Cespedes can be the PG. I don't want Peavy and Boozer on the same team, that's a lot of yelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 02:31 PM) All those guys were great baseball players. Did you see the homers he hit Friday and Saturday nights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) Sorry, 45 inches, just a little hyperbole and overexaggeration. But that's still better or comparable with Michael Jordan. Maybe only Spud Webb, before he became a topless womens' strip club-sponsored basketball coach, and a few others top that. That's not even his vertical. That's a box jump. There's a HUGE difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:32 PM) Did you see the homers he hit Friday and Saturday nights? Did you see his strike outs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:37 PM) Did you see his strike outs? No, just the home runs. That's all the played on the caulfield version of sports center when a point has to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) No, just the home runs. That's all the played on the caulfield version of sports center when a point has to be made. If he can hit .240 with 30+ homers, nobody's going to care. Austin Jackson strikes out just as many time as anyone in history without much power and he's still an integral part of the Tigers' line-up because of his defensive ability and speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 06:12 PM) Austin Jackson strikes out just as many time as anyone in history without much power and he's still an integral part of the Tigers' line-up because they don't have anyone better and with the heart of their order they can get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 If Austin Jackson was on the White Sox, Ozzie Guillen would have benched him repeatedly last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 guys just deal with it - cespedes could be really good - that's all he's saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 That money for Cespedes was a big gamble, and one we couldn't afford to make due to the presence of Dunn and Rios already on the future payrolls. And there's always the possibility the league will adjust to him and he'll be in AAA at some point this season, but he's exactly what baseball in Oakland needs to survive, a potential superstar who can go out of the yard at any place in that stadium, in any weather conditions. That said, we do have Viciedo and that doesn't mean we should throw $20-30 million at Soler just because of what Cespedes has done in 4 games. If nothing else, Beane can market him to the rest of MLB and get 2-3-4 top prospects back who will hit the ground running when they finally get their new stadium out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 05:30 PM) That money for Cespedes was a big gamble, and one we couldn't afford to make due to the presence of Dunn and Rios already on the future payrolls. And there's always the possibility the league will adjust to him and he'll be in AAA at some point this season, but he's exactly what baseball in Oakland needs to survive, a potential superstar who can go out of the yard at any place in that stadium, in any weather conditions. That said, we do have Viciedo and that doesn't mean we should throw $20-30 million at Soler just because of what Cespedes has done in 4 games. If nothing else, Beane can market him to the rest of MLB and get 2-3-4 top prospects back who will hit the ground running when they finally get their new stadium out there. i love how your style of posting is just to have a conversation with yourself. it's psychologically intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) i love how your style of posting is just to have a conversation with yourself. it's psychologically intriguing. Sometimes, when you're teaching really spoiled and lazy rich kids, it feels like that! Maybe it's from teaching psych and sociology. Mitch Albom: Do you ever get sticker shock with player contracts -- like the one you just gave Prince Fielder? Mike Illitch: It's big numbers. Initially, they're unrealistic numbers. But if you want stars, you gotta pay the price. ... And fans want to see stars. They come out to see stars. There's little doubt that JR and the Board weren't going to commit that kind of money to Cespedes. But we are in dire need of a new "true" superstar to get the fans excited again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 06:56 PM) But we are in dire need of a new "true" superstar to get the fans excited again. Win some bloody games and I'll be plenty excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 05:58 PM) Win some bloody games and I'll be plenty excited. but he IS right in regard to the general public. we on soxtalk care no matter what - but the public could have used a Cespedes to get excited about in a year like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) but he IS right in regard to the general public. we on soxtalk care no matter what - but the public could have used a Cespedes to get excited about in a year like this. I think the general public cares a lot more about a winner than having an 80 win team but watching Sammy Sosa Cespedes hit a HR in a 6-1 loss. We're not talking about Cub fans here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 07:11 PM) I think the general public cares a lot more about a winner than having an 80 win team but watching Sammy Sosa Cespedes hit a HR in a 6-1 loss. We're not talking about Cub fans here. At least we would have that monster home run to talk about at the water cooler while waiting for tmrw's game in CLE, instead of how anemic our line-up is with RISP and how Gavin continues the trend of April suckage. Edited April 9, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 11:02 PM) At least we would have that monster home run to talk about at the water cooler while waiting for tmrw's game in CLE, instead of how anemic our line-up is with RISP and how Gavin continues the trend of April suckage. Be honest man. The Sox lose and hit a long solo HR, everyone talks about how the Sox Lost. That's the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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