Loaiza21 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 First off let me say that the post "f*** Neal Cotts" is moronic and doesn't speak for any of us really. I'd like to say that I'm sorry that some people hear feel that it is necessary to bash a pitcher after his MAJOR LEAGUE DEBUT, just because he struggles to find control. I pitch myself and I have walked the bases full when I'm nervous or if I just don't have it. It is a tough thing. I mean they threw our BEST pitching prospect in a major league pennant race to make his first start, and I applaud Neal Cotts for sticking in their and holding down the lead the best he could. If Manuel let Cotts stay in, I'm sure he'd have gotten his stuff down. Give him another chance, he's got wicked stuff. And he hit 92 MPH last night, that was an eye opener. I think that you have to take the good out of the performance. Maybe his control was off, but those hitters were fooled most of the time. Konerko has 2 double plays to him last night while Cotts was pitching. They were hitting to the right side on change ups. The hitters were frustrated. Take out the walks and Cotts is pitching 1 run baseball. I am still very excited about this guy we have in our system, and I hope that he reads this, because this is how White Sox fans really think about him. I have to apologize for the expectations and stuff, but it's just because we are excited about the way Cotts pitches. If the minor leaguers read this, I hope they consider staying here and not leaving. And now all I have to say is...... GO NEAL COTTS AND GO SOX!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 A-f***ING-MEN!!!! Go Neal!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 First off let me say that the post "f*** Neal Cotts" is moronic and doesn't speak for any of us really. I'd like to say that I'm sorry that some people hear feel that it is necessary to bash a pitcher after his MAJOR LEAGUE DEBUT, just because he struggles to find control. I pitch myself and I have walked the bases full when I'm nervous or if I just don't have it. It is a tough thing. I mean they threw our BEST pitching prospect in a major league pennant race to make his first start, and I applaud Neal Cotts for sticking in their and holding down the lead the best he could. If Manuel let Cotts stay in, I'm sure he'd have gotten his stuff down. Give him another chance, he's got wicked stuff. And he hit 92 MPH last night, that was an eye opener. I think that you have to take the good out of the performance. Maybe his control was off, but those hitters were fooled most of the time. Konerko has 2 double plays to him last night while Cotts was pitching. They were hitting to the right side on change ups. The hitters were frustrated. Take out the walks and Cotts is pitching 1 run baseball. I am still very excited about this guy we have in our system, and I hope that he reads this, because this is how White Sox fans really think about him. I have to apologize for the expectations and stuff, but it's just because we are excited about the way Cotts pitches. If the minor leaguers read this, I hope they consider staying here and not leaving. And now all I have to say is...... GO NEAL COTTS AND GO SOX!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 sign me up for the good things to say about Cotts band! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmarte Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 At least Give the kid more than one start. Calling for his head now is moronic. And I vote for changing the title of the other post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 sign me up for the good things to say about Cotts band! :fthecubs :sosasucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Folks, i hope Neal does well with the Sox. I personally think he can be a major league ball player. I don't think he should be pitching now for the Sox. As I mentioned on the other threads (no swearing done by me) he should not be part of a team in a pennant race. He does not have the stuff yet. If you think that is negative, then bash me. He is not ready. He proved that. Let him learn to pitch for strikes, keep him down until he is ready. that is my point. Furthermore I am not being negative as others might have suggested, I am being honest and practical as a fan. I do not have a good answer for the fifth starter nor do they pay me to have one. I believe with the expanded rosters in Sept we could have three fifth starters pitching on the same day to button up that position when it comes up. Until then, we need to look at the waiver wire, or have cotts pitch one more time. But if he does pitch it will be against Anahiem again at home. I really don't think the sox want that to happen. I hope you can find a silver lining in my comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 You can add my name to this bandwagon. I just hope Sox brass show him enough confidence to let him get another shot in 5 days. He'll be rested and should be much less nervous. I also think they might want to rethink having Sandy catch him. I know Sandy's the veteran and all. But sometimes I think Sandy wants to nibble the corners too much. That's not what Neal needs. He should trust his stuff and come after hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Basically the kid freaked out and s*** his pants especially in the 3rd inning. Oh well, it happens. It's certainly not unexpected. I did see some signs i liked, which is what you look for when you are seeing a pitcher for the first time, which many of us were. He had some life, some movement on that fastball. His breaking stuff was pretty consistent. He didn't go at hitters as much as i would have liked...probly didn't want too make too many mistakes and give up gophers balls. Didn't trust his stuff enough probably. So instead of laying balls in he was nibbling and hoping batters took some bad swings. He realized most mlb guys don't do that, and he'll learn from the experience. I also think it was good that the Sox won, taking the weight off of Cotts' back and not making him feel like he cost the Sox a game while chasing down the Royals. Anyone who gives up on this kid, or says "f*** neal cotts" is ridiculous IMO. You can't say he had a great start last night, but one start does not a career make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevingrt13 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I say give the guy one more start at Texas on Sunday. If he can somehow put oout a good outing, keep him out here for another, so on and so forth. I know he had tons of nerves, and should get one more chance. Needs to calm down though and just throw strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 GO NEAL COTTS AND GO SOX!!! Great post, Amen. (I love that icon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Steff, We need this guy to CALM DOWN Not get worked up again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I said walks would kill this buy but everybody told me I was full of s***. I agree with quickman on this one. Cotts will be OK someday but he shouldnt be pitching for this team at this time. Were in a pennant race, I dont want to give him another chance this year. We cant afford a loss to see how good some kid is. He can come back next year but this year we just cant have him here. And also, I gotta give my props to Danny Wright for saving Cotts ass and stopping the bullpen from being wrecked. GOOD JOB DW!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I said walks would kill this buy but everybody told me I was full of s***. I agree with quickman on this one. Cotts will be OK someday but he shouldnt be pitching for this team at this time. Were in a pennant race, I dont want to give him another chance this year. We cant afford a loss to see how good some kid is. He can come back next year but this year we just cant have him here. And also, I gotta give my props to Danny Wright for saving Cotts ass and stopping the bullpen from being wrecked. GOOD JOB DW!!!!!!! Wow, you didnt call him a cocksucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Steff, We need this guy to CALM DOWN Not get worked up again! Don't you remember how Annie calmed down Nuke in Bull Durham... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Steff, We need this guy to CALM DOWN Not get worked up again! Don't you remember how Annie calmed down Nuke in Bull Durham... You're gonna make him wear womens lingerie?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Steff, We need this guy to CALM DOWN Not get worked up again! Don't you remember how Annie calmed down Nuke in Bull Durham... You're gonna make him wear womens lingerie?? Uhhh.. yeah. Something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Steff, We need this guy to CALM DOWN Not get worked up again! Don't you remember how Annie calmed down Nuke in Bull Durham... Can I help you pick out the red garters for him to wear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Ehem... Ummm... Neal... when you get back to Chicago I'd be more than happy to show ya around... Steff, We need this guy to CALM DOWN Not get worked up again! Don't you remember how Annie calmed down Nuke in Bull Durham... Can I help you pick out the red garters for him to wear? Make it black and you have a deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Done and done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Irish Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Neal definately showed last night he has potential as he is not overpowering but suprising. the Angel hitters were off balance against him and couldn't hit the strikes he threw. His outing reminded me a lot of how Garland started out. Trying to be too perfect. He needs to just go out and throw. he has the stuff as does Garland but Neal will need to learn to throw strikes and let your D help you out. Our D has been great this year. Neal will be a starting pitcher in this league. Also, I think as Sox fans we think someone who is called up should throw a gem because it happens to us all the time but that is all we see. Pitchers are called up all the time that get shelled in their first outing, we just don't see it. If his first start was against us it might have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Agreed...Neal I'm cheering for ya and I think your gonna be awesome. Hope your get another start and they don't just send ya down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I would really like to see Neal get a start at home. Debuting on the road is hella tough and Texas lights alot of people up down there. If he survives his start in Arlington I look for a good sized crowd to cheer him on at his Cell debut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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