ScottyDo Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:35 PM) JDINAA, just sayin'! John Danks Is Not Alex Anthopolous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:33 PM) xFIP: 3.79 Also, as recently as the middle of last year he had a stretch of pure dominance. Even with a full year of poor numbers, it would be hard to declare with any confidence that Danks is "steadily declining", let alone with a very recent stretch of greatness. Danks has those stretches of dominance...but this is why I'd call Danks a "Question mark" or at the very least "Less than rock solid" as a #1 pitcher. He also has stretches where that changeup just isn't on, and when that changeup isn't on, he doesn't have a good other way of getting outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Danks gets out of it without any more damage. 5-4 Sox after 5 innings from Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) Danks has those stretches of dominance...but this is why I'd call Danks a "Question mark" or at the very least "Less than rock solid" as a #1 pitcher. He also has stretches where that changeup just isn't on, and when that changeup isn't on, he doesn't have a good other way of getting outs. so did you consider mark buehrle rock solid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) Danks has those stretches of dominance...but this is why I'd call Danks a "Question mark" or at the very least "Less than rock solid" as a #1 pitcher. He also has stretches where that changeup just isn't on, and when that changeup isn't on, he doesn't have a good other way of getting outs. Right, he's not perfectly consistent but "declining" is an unfair and inaccurate descriptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 JDINAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 ps this "rock solid" thing is so stupid. all i'm saying is that we have a rotation that, 1 thru 5 are all average or above average pitchers. thus, solid. most teams can't say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) In his last start, it was Kinsler. This start, it is Hafner. Maybe can get one more inning out of Danks since it will be 8-9-1 and they are 1-6 this game. But have that bullpen ready. Unless we score a crooked number this inning. Score more White Sox! We have a good chance here. Masterson is out of the game. Edited April 11, 2012 by sunofgold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) Danks has those stretches of dominance...but this is why I'd call Danks a "Question mark" or at the very least "Less than rock solid" as a #1 pitcher. He also has stretches where that changeup just isn't on, and when that changeup isn't on, he doesn't have a good other way of getting outs. Danks is clearly not a #1 pitcher. He may be in the bottom 5 of #1s in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Was Dan Wheeler the guy Paulie hit that grand slam off of in the 2005 world series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) Was Dan Wheeler the guy Paulie hit that grand slam off of in the 2005 world series? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 11:41 AM) Danks is clearly not a #1 pitcher. He may be in the bottom 5 of #1s in the league. Chen Pavano Masterson Arrieta McCarthy Lewis so maybe the 7th worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) ps this "rock solid" thing is so stupid. all i'm saying is that we have a rotation that, 1 thru 5 are all average or above average pitchers. thus, solid. most teams can't say this. No...they "Can be" average or above average pitchers. Only 2 of them have a track record of being above average pitchers, and even then, not amazingly far above average. Many teams can say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) Was Dan Wheeler the guy Paulie hit that grand slam off of in the 2005 world series? Chad Qualls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:45 PM) Chen Pavano Masterson Arrieta McCarthy Lewis so maybe the 7th worst. The one who dominated us last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) The one who dominated us last week? oh so i make a basis off an entire season (humber) and it's ridiculous... but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 12:45 PM) Chen Pavano Masterson Arrieta McCarthy Lewis so maybe the 7th worst. ha, sounds about right, though i may prefer McCarthy at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) No Oh I could've swore it was. Haha oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) No...they "Can be" average or above average pitchers. Only 2 of them have a track record of being above average pitchers, and even then, not amazingly far above average. Many teams can say that. you don't understand average and above average in major league baseball. a 4.00 is above average in the American League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Beckham doubles off of the wall, just beating the throw at 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:46 PM) oh so i make a basis off an entire season (humber) and it's ridiculous... but... Technically 1/2 a season. He had an ERA of 5 after the AS Break last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Gordo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) you don't understand average and above average in major league baseball. a 4.00 is above average in the American League. Great. So out of the 3, 4, 5 starters on the White Sox, which ones have a track record of putting up above average ERA's over 175+ innings for the last 2-3 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 12:46 PM) ha, sounds about right, though i may prefer McCarthy at this point And that's just the AL. He's not an elite ace, at least not now, but he may be, and I'm glad the Sox kept him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 11, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) Technically 1/2 a season. He had an ERA of 5 after the AS Break last year. The stat he cited included your post-ASB ERA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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