southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Just wanted to respond to this.. What if Billy Koch or Danny Wright posted on this board? Should they be free from criticism? A lot of players have been criticized. I agree the thread topic is too much, and it was his Major League debut, so he should get a break. People did go way overboard with name calling, but if they choose to go overboard, it should be their choice. Hopefully, Cotts and Bullard will understand the passion people have here for the Sox,not take the name calling personally, and continue to post here. I'm sure Neal isn't too happy about his performance last night. I have NO problem with players being critisized. I do plenty of it myself. But there is a huge difference between Neal Cotts sucked last night, and f*** Neal Cotts, and people calling him cocksucker, bastard, etc. That is just sheer igorance. There is no defending that. And to further expand, we are lucky as hell to have two members of the Sox organization who are willing to post here under their own names, and give us an insight to the games that 99.9% of us will never have. And it will piss me off if a couple of idiots ruin one of the greatest aspects of this board. How long would you stick around if you were a player who had threads like this posted about you after you ML Debut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 IMO, it's awesome to have real players posting in here. And i think doing this, would make them pissed off and stop posting here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 How many fans, posters, will we lose with thread titles like those? Many ways to criticise players without such in one's face stuff with the "f***" word in the thread title. Although actually the combination of, in the original thread title, "f*** Neil [sic] Cotts" and ""give it up to Danny Wright" presented a verbal picture of a most unusual sexual fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I believe the topic was overboard and better judgement should have been used. But not because he posts here. Your right, if it were me I probably would not post here again. My point is that there is a f*** Koch, f*** Manuel, f*** Reinsdorf, f*** KW. If someone wants a f*** Cotts, although I don't agree, it shouldn't be changed just because he posts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 "f***" anything or anyone is not criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 "f***" anything or anyone is not criticism. Hey, another ghost. I am no longer alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 "f***" anything or anyone is not criticism. Agreed - "f*** anyone or anything" is actually RPS's mission statement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Just wanted to respond to this.. I have NO problem with players being critisized. I do plenty of it myself. But there is a huge difference between Neal Cotts sucked last night, and f*** Neal Cotts, and people calling him cocksucker, bastard, etc. That is just sheer igorance. There is no defending that. And to further expand, we are lucky as hell to have two members of the Sox organization who are willing to post here under their own names, and give us an insight to the games that 99.9% of us will never have. And it will piss me off if a couple of idiots ruin one of the greatest aspects of this board. How long would you stick around if you were a player who had threads like this posted about you after you ML Debut? I called him a bastard after he walked four straight. But CLee has the nickname Dumbass, and when he GIDP's lots of people call him Dumbass. What's the difference? Is it because Carlos has been here for awhile? Please inform me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I believe the topic was overboard and better judgement should have been used. But not because he posts here. Your right, if it were me I probably would not post here again. My point is that there is a f*** Koch, f*** Manuel, f*** Reinsdorf, f*** KW. If someone wants a f*** Cotts, although I don't agree, it shouldn't be changed just because he posts here. You are totally right. And tell you what, Koch has sure done a hell alot more in this game than Cotts. I disagree with the title of the thread, but why is there a double standard for Neal Cotts is what I want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 You are totally right. And tell you what, Koch has sure done a hell alot more in this game than Cotts. I disagree with the title of the thread, but why is there a double standard for Neal Cotts is what I want to know. Neal Cotts has made exactly one start in the major leagues. Plus he is a member here. Personally I think it is incredibly narrow minded to say those kind of things about a guy in his major league debut. If you want to change the arguement to schematics, a few people call Carlos "dumbass" because he makes dumbass plays in LF. When you called Cotts a "bastard" I doubt you were referring to his fatherless childhood. Billy Koch has been horrible all year long, that is why people are upset with him, not for 2 1/3 damned innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm a bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Did he have a fatherless childhood? If he did, I certainly take that back. That's not at all what I was getting at. But, you know what, calling someone an s.o.b. doesn't mean you are calling there mother a b****, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm a bastard. So am I, but who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 Did he have a fatherless childhood? If he did, I certainly take that back. That's not at all what I was getting at. But, you know what, calling someone an s.o.b. doesn't mean you are calling there mother a b****, right? Like I said, that is all schematics. You asked why Carlos Lee is called "dumbass" and I told you. I definately am not going to go throw the evolution of curse words with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm a bastard. Hmm not what I would have called you, but it will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Like I said, that is all schematics. You asked why Carlos Lee is called "dumbass" and I told you. I definately am not going to go throw the evolution of curse words with you... What the hell are you talking about? I know why you are "kissing Cotts ass" (sorry, but that was for lack of a better term), you said it yourself. Because he posts here. (twice). Like Dick Allen said, that is wrong. What if Koch posted here, would you kiss his ass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 What the hell are talking about? I know why you are "kissing Cotts ass" (sorry, but that was for lack of a better term), you said it yourself. Because he posts here. (twice). Like Dick Allen said, that is wrong. What if Koch posted here, would you kiss his ass? Why do you keep changing the discussion? One minute you are talking about one thing, the next you are on to something else... As for Cotts being a member here, yes it makes a difference. Have you ever seen a thread that saids "f*** [insert member name] " on here anywhere? It is not allowed. Of course you have to degenerate to calling it "ass kissing". If you want to turn this into name calling the discussion is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Neal Cotts has made exactly one start in the major leagues. Personally I think it is incredibly narrow minded to say those kind of things about a guy in his major league debut. If you want to change the arguement to schematics, a few people call Carlos "dumbass" because he makes dumbass plays in LF. When you called Cotts a "bastard" I doubt you were referring to his fatherless childhood. Billy Koch has been horrible all year long, that is why people are upset with him, not for 2 1/3 damned innings. Agreed. I took out the fact that he is a member here(although he is and we love him), because if Jon Adkins makes his ML debut and goes 2 1/3 innings while walking 6, no one here should say "f*** you Jon, you f***ing suck you cocksucking piece of s***". I created a "f*** you Billy Koch" thread. Why? Because he has continually sucked throughout the year and there were very high expectations for this guy coming into the year. He was supposed to be the piece that turned the bullpen from being good to great. Then him and his 92 MPH fastball showed up, and his 6.00 ERA showed up, and he started serving up GW homer after GW homer, and it finally gets to you. We won. Why should we care about how Neal did? He knows as well as we know that he did not pitch well, but I'm sure he is just fine with the outcome of the game. He just needs to forget about that outing and go out and beat the Rangers his next time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Neal Cotts has made exactly one start in the major leagues. Plus he is a member here. Personally I think it is incredibly narrow minded to say those kind of things about a guy in his major league debut. If you want to change the arguement to schematics, a few people call Carlos "dumbass" because he makes dumbass plays in LF. When you called Cotts a "bastard" I doubt you were referring to his fatherless childhood. Billy Koch has been horrible all year long, that is why people are upset with him, not for 2 1/3 damned innings. Schoenweis has had 2 bad outings, after his first one people were all over him.Like I said before I thought the F-Cotts thread was out of line, and I don't agree with it, but there are a lot of posts on this board that I think are out of line, there are posters on here who call people names all the time. Yet no stink is put up about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 What the hell are talking about? I know why you are "kissing Cotts ass" (sorry, but that was for lack of a better term), you said it yourself. Because he posts here. (twice). Like Dick Allen said, that is wrong. What if Koch posted here, would you kiss his ass? Why do you keep changing the discussion? One minute you are talking about one thing, the next you are on to something else... As for Cotts being a member here, yes it makes a difference. Have you ever seen a thread that saids "f*** [insert member name] " on here anywhere? It is not allowed. Of course you have to degenerate to calling it "ass kissing". If you want to turn this into name calling the discussion is done. Ass kissing is not name calling. I apologized for having to use it, but I didn't know what else to say. Would you prefer "sucking up to" "brown nosing"? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Also, Neal has made two f***ing posts here. In June! He is a White Sox first, a poster in way distant second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 What the hell are talking about? I know why you are "kissing Cotts ass" (sorry, but that was for lack of a better term), you said it yourself. Because he posts here. (twice). Like Dick Allen said, that is wrong. What if Koch posted here, would you kiss his ass? Why do you keep changing the discussion? One minute you are talking about one thing, the next you are on to something else... As for Cotts being a member here, yes it makes a difference. Have you ever seen a thread that saids "f*** [insert member name] " on here anywhere? It is not allowed. Of course you have to degenerate to calling it "ass kissing". If you want to turn this into name calling the discussion is done. Ass kissing is not name calling. I apologized for having to use it, but I didn't know what else to say. Would you prefer "sucking up to" "brown nosing"? I don't know. Well whatever, you have my reason for that line of thought. Can you see anyone starting a f*** HSC or Bmr thread? Like I said tear the guy apart for his preformance, say he doesn't belong, that is all fine, and if you can back it up, I will at least respect your opinion. (Heck I was one of the few people on record ahead of time saying that I didn't think it was a great idea to have Neal up here yet.) But freak out on a guy making his major league debut and expect to hear about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 Also, Neal has made two f***ing posts here. In June! He is a White Sox first, a poster in way distant second. He has also used Bullard's ID to make some posts, before he has his own ID, but that is beside the point. The amount of posts you have doesn't equate to the level of abuse you have to take. Just because I have more posts than you do, does it mean that I can abuse you? Is there a minimum number of posts you need before you are considered a "real" Soxtalk member? No, that is all absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Can you see anyone starting a f*** HSC or Bmr thread? If they walked six in 2 1/3 innings. But hey, I like the guy and hope he does great. I respect you for your opinions and the fact that you haven't resorted to name calling, but I don't like the reasoning for your opinions. But I respect them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 He has also used Bullard's ID to make some posts, before he has his own ID, but that is beside the point. The amount of posts you have doesn't equate to the level of abuse you have to take. Just because I have more posts than you do, does it mean that I can abuse you? Is there a minimum number of posts you need before you are considered a "real" Soxtalk member? No, that is all absurd. No not at all. But you make it like he's on here all the time like alot of us are. But you can't tell me that nobody else insults anyone here. If Big Frank my favorite player in all the world, my hero, my idol, has a bad game, I don't make excuses. I get angry. The reason I care is because (god help me) I love this f***ing team so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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