Heads22 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I like him. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I hear he's pretty alright at this newfangled game of baseball, or whatever the kids are calling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I hear he has a big house, somewhere in the southwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I'm amazed at how good a hitter he is. Approach wise, I don't think there's a better hitter in baseball. For what, 3 years now, he's been on top of every pitch. Amazing hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I tried to make the point the other day that you can argue over the last 2 years he is in his PRIME. It fell on deaf ears, however. To me he's a much better hitter even than the guy we saw have back to back 40 HR seasons IMO. Fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 02:13 AM) I'm amazed at how good a hitter he is. Approach wise, I don't think there's a better hitter in baseball. For what, 3 years now, he's been on top of every pitch. Amazing hitter. Albert Pujols wants to have a word with you. With that said, PK truly is amazing. He's pretty easily the 2nd best Sox hitter of my lifetime. If he played for any other team, I may question how it's possible for a player in his mid-30's to be having the best years of his career, but since he's a White Sox, I couldn't care less. Edited April 15, 2012 by maxjusttyped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14419 Players at age 34-35 to put up 150+ OPS seasons in baseball history. http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...?blockID=647180 Depending on what stat you use, he's been anywhere from the 2nd (to Votto) to #5-6 hitter in all of MLB based on OPS from 2010-2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 He is the renaissance man, there is no doubt about it. The shoulder shrug is gone, every at-bat is a battle. I love watching him hit now, he really uses the entire field now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 03:53 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14419 Players at age 34-35 to put up 150+ OPS seasons in baseball history. http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...?blockID=647180 Depending on what stat you use, he's been anywhere from the 2nd (to Votto) to #5-6 hitter in all of MLB based on OPS from 2010-2011. Re: the first one, he didn't actually accomplish that. Article was written in August of 2011. He ended the season with a 144 OPS+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 He looks like he is playing 16" softball out there with his approach. Hits the ball wherever he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 It is pretty awesome when you consider he was supposed to be out of the game like 10 years ago because of his hip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) It is pretty awesome when you consider he was supposed to be out of the game like 10 years ago because of his hip. Was watching one of the Cleveland games the other day on the Extra Innings package and the Tribe announcers were praising Konerko's career accomplishments while noting that he never "legs out" a hit and that pretty much all of his hits need to reach the outfield becuase he's so darn slow - this increased their praise, while making them wonder what his numbers would be if he had even average speed. It's a good point. I'll take it a small step further. I've noticed that over the past three seasons or so infielders have realized just HOW slow Paulie is, and are making more and more "spectacular" plays against him. It's been crazy how often balls off Paulie's bat are becoming defensive highlights. IMO, it's because the fielders have realized that they merely need to STOP the ball from reaching the outfield - NOT stopping the ball with a mindset to get up quickly and make a throw (as they would with a normal runner), because there's ALWAYS time to make the throw with Paulie "running". This is resulting in less "seeing eye singles" and less hits generally according to this observer. And yet his numbers continue to rock. Edited April 15, 2012 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Can you imagine how awesome he's gonna be when he's 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 03:24 PM) Was watching one of the Cleveland games the other day on the Extra Innings package and the Tribe announcers were praising Konerko's career accomplishments while noting that he never "legs out" a hit and that pretty much all of his hits need to reach the outfield becuase he's so darn slow - this increased their praise, while making them wonder what his numbers would be if he had even average speed. It's a good point. I'll take it a small step further. I've noticed that over the past three seasons or so infielders have realized just HOW slow Paulie is, and are making more and more "spectacular" plays against him. It's been crazy how often balls off Paulie's bat are becoming defensive highlights. IMO, it's because the fielders have realized that they merely need to STOP the ball from reaching the outfield - NOT stopping the ball with a mindset to get up quickly and make a throw (as they would with a normal runner), because there's ALWAYS time to make the throw with Paulie "running". This is resulting in less "seeing eye singles" and less hits generally according to this observer. And yet his numbers continue to rock. It is amazing how slow he is. You bring up a great point. I wonder why there's not a Paulie shift that would have the third baseman and shortstop play several steps past the infield. He would not be able to beat out any "hits" that are a few steps into the outfield grass. Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Paulie has to be the slowest non-catcher in baseball. That being said, I definitely started under appreciating Paulie around 2009ish and I gotta say I'm sorry Paul. You are the man. 2nd best Sox hitter I have ever seen without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It has to be the hip that makes him slow. Can't a person train to run faster? If he could train to be faster, I bet he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 09:08 PM) It has to be the hip that makes him slow. Can't a person train to run faster? If he could train to be faster, I bet he would. It boggles my mind how Konerko is that slow. It's not like he's out of shape or anything, he's just slow footed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Paul Konerko is seriously the man. If anyone thinks not, f*** them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 09:14 PM) It boggles my mind how Konerko is that slow. It's not like he's out of shape or anything, he's just slow footed... Exactly my thoughts. I mean look at how quickly (relative) Fielder got around the bases today, almost tried to stretch out a triple. Big man can move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 So mechanically what makes Fielder faster than Konerko? Doesn't it come to how fast your move your legs. Legs are connected to your hips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 11:31 PM) So mechanically what makes Fielder faster than Konerko? Doesn't it come to how fast your move your legs. Legs are connected to your hips. I dunno, momentum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 16, 2012 -> 05:56 AM) I dunno, momentum? Sounds dumb, but some guys are just slow. Paulie should be proud he's overcome that to make it in the big leagues and be a zillionaire. Tons of baseball players who can HIT never get a sniff because they can't run and scouts get out the gun and laugh ... and don't draft them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 16, 2012 -> 02:51 AM) Sounds dumb, but some guys are just slow. Paulie should be proud he's overcome that to make it in the big leagues and be a zillionaire. Tons of baseball players who can HIT never get a sniff because they can't run and scouts get out the gun and laugh ... and don't draft them. The joke was that Prince Fielder has enough mass that his momentum carries him. Hip injuries make you waaaay slower. I was never fast, but serviceable, then when I had my knee injury and tried to play through it, it blew out my hips. I still have a nice first step, but after that my hips get real tired, real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 11:31 PM) So mechanically what makes Fielder faster than Konerko? Doesn't it come to how fast your move your legs. Legs are connected to your hips. Core strength is a part of it too which includes your hips so there ya go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 07:56 PM) It is amazing how slow he is. You bring up a great point. I wonder why there's not a Paulie shift that would have the third baseman and shortstop play several steps past the infield. He would not be able to beat out any "hits" that are a few steps into the outfield grass. Interesting Shhhhhhh!!! Edited April 16, 2012 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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