sunofgold Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Not feeling Ventura's pitching changes today. 1. Ventura let Sale start the 6th. He already had thrown 100 pitches. If Jones starts that inning, then probably Tiggs don't score a run that inning 2. 8th inning. I feel that Stewart should have stayed in there. He did get Tiggs out 1-2-3 in the 8th. But if you want to bring in Ohman, then it has to be for one batter (lefty)..LOOGY..lol...and then bring in Reed. That is my opinion. Could have probably kept this game 2-1! Edited April 15, 2012 by sunofgold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 04:59 PM) Balta, who do you think should be batting 2nd? No one's going to like hearing me say it, but I'd give Morel at least 2 more weeks. If things continue the way they are, Dunn will be dropping in the order along with Morel, and Viciedo will be moving up, and then there will be a De Aza/AJ/Konerko/Viciedo top of the lineup, but then that's pretty aggressively moving Viciedo up. Anyway...I still say this season is about developing guys, so I'd keep Morel there for a while longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 You can't throw pitch after pitch after pitch in the same location...eventually Fielder will dial it in, even though that pitch was a bit off the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) When does the Lillibridge needs to start at third thread start? And add Escobar at second to that thread as well. I love Beckman but Kenny and Ozzie destroyed him with all those needless mind games and position shifts. He'll never be any good to the Sox and it"s a real tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 09:00 PM) Not feeling Ventura's pitching changes today. 1. Let Sale start the 6th. He already had thrown 100 pitches. If Jones starts that inning, then probably Tiggs don't score a run that inning 2. 8th inning. I feel that Stewart should have stayed in there. He did get Tiggs out 1-2-3 in the 8th. But if you want to bring in Ohman, then it has to be for one batter (lefty)..LOOGY..lol...and then bring in Reed. That is my opinion. Could have probably kept this game 2-1! Yep, pretty terrible decision making by Ventura today with the pitchers. Of course, he did have a good lineup set today and the offense failed to show up. This game is one of those games you just lose in every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) And add Escobar at second to that thread as well. I love Beckman but Kenny and Ozzie destroyed him with all those needless mind games and position shifts. He'll never be any good to the Sox and it"s a real tragedy. They even destroyed his name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Absolutely HATE. HATE. HATE. winning the first two games and losing the last. Even if it's a series win, somehow doesnt feel like it. They need to rock Baltimore tomorrow, get the bad taste out of their mouths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 04:00 PM) Not feeling Ventura's pitching changes today. 1. Let Sale start the 6th. He already had thrown 100 pitches. If Jones starts that inning, then probably Tiggs don't score a run that inning 2. 8th inning. I feel that Stewart should have stayed in there. He did get Tiggs out 1-2-3 in the 8th. But if you want to bring in Ohman, then it has to be for one batter (lefty)..LOOGY..lol...and then bring in Reed. That is my opinion. Could have probably kept this game 2-1! Disagree on your first statement thought the decision was fine given the batter was Prince..... I do agree he probably should of left Stewart in but he probably is still feeling out his team, I'm sure Robin will have less and less confidence in Ohman as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) Yep, pretty terrible decision making by Ventura today with the pitchers. Of course, he did have a good lineup set today and the offense failed to show up. This game is one of those games you just lose in every aspect. If Porcello can throw like this all year, then a lot of offenses will be failing to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) They even destroyed his name... I just noticed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) Absolutely HATE. HATE. HATE. winning the first two games and losing the last. Even if it's a series win, somehow doesnt feel like it. They need to rock Baltimore tomorrow, get the bad taste out of their mouths... Philip Humber has a philled up gas tank. (man, that was bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) Absolutely HATE. HATE. HATE. winning the first two games and losing the last. Even if it's a series win, somehow doesnt feel like it. They need to rock Baltimore tomorrow, get the bad taste out of their mouths... I'll take 2 of 3 every series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 04:00 PM) No one's going to like hearing me say it, but I'd give Morel at least 2 more weeks. If things continue the way they are, Dunn will be dropping in the order along with Morel, and Viciedo will be moving up, and then there will be a De Aza/AJ/Konerko/Viciedo top of the lineup, but then that's pretty aggressively moving Viciedo up. Anyway...I still say this season is about developing guys, so I'd keep Morel there for a while longer. Viciedo should be behind Konerko tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 How about Rios at the 2nd spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) Viciedo should be behind Konerko tomorrow. He's getting there, but there's plenty of "Mental reasons" to take it easy with the kid. We've screwed around enough with him, let's at least let him get comfortable in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (kapzk @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) How about Rios at the 2nd spot? In 3 days, people will be saying "How about we try Morel again?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 09:03 PM) Viciedo should be behind Konerko tomorrow. I'm a big fan of Viciedo, but does he have any hits against fastballs this year? Just wondering if anyone has that stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I think Ramirez should bat 2nd, as I think he won't let batting 2nd impact his approach. I thought from day one Morel batting 2nd was just a recipe for disaster. Edited April 15, 2012 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 04:01 PM) Disagree on your first statement thought the decision was fine given the batter was Prince..... I do agree he probably should of left Stewart in but he probably is still feeling out his team, I'm sure Robin will have less and less confidence in Ohman as the season progresses. Not sure why Ventura doesn't trust Stewart. He could have even brought Stewart in the sixth to start the inning. He is the long reliever and that seemed like a spot for the long reliever since our Sale threw so many pitches and could only go five. Didn't like Sale starting the sixth. He already threw 100 pitches. Tiggs were having good ABs against him. Sale must have been tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Can't believe that didn't leave the yard! Good contact by Dunn though -- he hasn't been missing mistakes this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 We better put away the Orioles, because Verlander is going to face a demoralized Royals team. 8, 11 and 12 runs scored by the Indians against KC this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Well, time for a big rally. Tiggs bring in their closer. And Dunn continues to hit the righties. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 04:00 PM) No one's going to like hearing me say it, but I'd give Morel at least 2 more weeks. If things continue the way they are, Dunn will be dropping in the order along with Morel, and Viciedo will be moving up, and then there will be a De Aza/AJ/Konerko/Viciedo top of the lineup, but then that's pretty aggressively moving Viciedo up. Anyway...I still say this season is about developing guys, so I'd keep Morel there for a while longer. A few more YEARS at third is not going to make a talent-deficient ballplayer any better than what he is now. The experience is over, next rabbit out of Kenny's hat please..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 05:05 PM) Not sure why Ventura doesn't trust Stewart. He could have even brought Stewart in the sixth to start the inning. He is the long reliever and that seemed like a spot for the long reliever since our Sale threw so many pitches and could only go five. Didn't like Sale starting the sixth. He already threw 100 pitches. Tiggs were having good ABs against him. Sale must have been tiring. Sale started the 6th because it was Prince Fielder, a tough lefty, at the plate, and Sale against Fielder, even while tired, seems like a better matchup than Stewart or Jones against Fielder to start an inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (sunofgold @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) Not sure why Ventura doesn't trust Stewart. He could have even brought Stewart in the sixth to start the inning. He is the long reliever and that seemed like a spot for the long reliever since our Sale threw so many pitches and could only go five. Didn't like Sale starting the sixth. He already threw 100 pitches. Tiggs were having good ABs against him. Sale must have been tiring. Because he got absolutely destroyed every time out at the end of ST and that's still in Robin's mind, probably. That and he had an ERA of near 7 against every team in the majors not named the Twins' AAA/AA line-up. 13 runs for CLE now today against KC. They definitely woke up their bats. Dunn now 7/30, .233. The R/L splits are crazy again, though. AJ with another early season RBI, 8. Doesn't feel like he's started out with 10 RBI's in April for a LONG, LONG time. Edited April 15, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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