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GT 4/15/12 - SOX vs. Tigers - 1:10p CDT - WGN


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QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 08:45 PM)
Can't wait for everyone to get worked up with the "I told you we had no bullpen!"

 

For comeback games after a win streak, you're going to need to win with your worst relievers on the mound. Sometimes you don't because they are, well, your worst relievers.

 

We have a dynamite back-end of the bullpen. Stewart and Jones are minor league caliber pitchers, in my opinion. This is where Jason Frasor being a ridiculous bust hurts the Sox.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 02:47 PM)
We have a dynamite back-end of the bullpen. Stewart and Jones are minor league caliber pitchers, in my opinion. This is where Jason Frasor being a ridiculous bust hurts the Sox.

 

 

The nice thing is the guy that can't find the plate is hitting 97 mph on his moving fastball, has a ton of drop on an 83 mph changeup, and has won "best curveball in White Sox farm system" several years running.

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QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 08:48 PM)
The nice thing is the guy that can't find the plate is hitting 97 mph on his moving fastball, has a ton of drop on an 83 mph changeup, and has won "best curveball in White Sox farm system" several years running.

 

Yeah, we're not saying he doesn't have the stuff to eventually make it. He just needs more refinement though, and I still think they'll have to change how he shows the ball.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 02:51 PM)
Yeah, we're not saying he doesn't have the stuff to eventually make it. He just needs more refinement though, and I still think they'll have to change how he shows the ball.

 

 

f*** it, baptism under fire!

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QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 02:53 PM)
Walking guys with a bunch of missed changeups = bad

 

Getting weak contact with 90% 97mph fastballs = good

 

The bullpen got better today.

nice avy

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QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 08:53 PM)
Walking guys with a bunch of missed changeups = bad

 

Getting weak contact with 90% 97mph fastballs = good

 

The bullpen got better today.

 

That's a great point. I wouldn't mind if they get rid of the change-up and go fastball/curve. He seemed to be aiming that change-up.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 03:54 PM)
That's a great point. I wouldn't mind if they get rid of the change-up and go fastball/curve. He seemed to be aiming that change-up.

They're not going to "Get rid" of anything based on 2 outings.

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QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 03:52 PM)
That's what the minor leagues are for.

Not really in middle relief, with bullpens that go 7 deep. If a guy can throw a 97 mph fastball for a strike, he's not going to be long for the minors.

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QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 02:54 PM)
nice avy

 

One of these days I'll get around to something new.

 

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2012 -> 02:54 PM)
That's a great point. I wouldn't mind if they get rid of the change-up and go fastball/curve. He seemed to be aiming that change-up.

 

He doesn't have to dump it, but if this will be a consistent problem they need to rethink the use. Use it when he's ahead, or use it against the Miguel Cabrera/Prince Fielder types when you're pitching around them and behind in the count

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Back to the same problem from 2009-2011.

 

We're putting so much pressure on the pitchers with our lack of offense, eventually it's going to start wearing on the pitching staff.

 

They can't throw a shutout or 1 hitter every time out.

 

Of course, this Tigers' line-up is hard to keep down for 3 consecutive games, even by the 2005 White Sox staff.

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