Jjav829 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 I'd definately consider Carlos Lee for Russ Ortiz. Ortiz is a proven winner and a real good pitcher. Still, I really hate giving up Caballo, I like the way our offense is going to look next year with him and Caballo their. That way their is a lot less pressure on Crede, Olivo, Rowand, and Jimenez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Ortiz would be worth el caballo and probably more. That guy is a winner. Postseason experience too... 14-10 with a 3.61 ERA. Sign Byrd (or maybe someone cheaper like Helling) too and wed be unstoppable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Originally posted by theoldromanOrtiz would be worth el caballo and probably more. That guy is a winner. Postseason experience too... 14-10 with a 3.61 ERA. Sign Byrd (or maybe someone cheaper like Helling) too and wed be unstoppable... i will have to agree here, lee will not be enuf for the sox to get this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 I'd say it would take a package of Lee, Rauch and probably Ginter/Biddle to grab him. Would this be a risk you'd be willing to take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Lee...... da Roach....... Biddle....... for Ortiz. Sounds like a kenny williams trade to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjav829 Posted December 10, 2002 Author Share Posted December 10, 2002 Kenny would probably give up too much, but they really need to take a look at Ortiz. He would fight in nicely with this rotation. KW would probably give up Rauch, Borchard, and Honel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 see i knew it wouldnt take long... you guys are finally getting the kw way of dealing.... its always got to be 3 for 1.....2 good guys and 1 minor player for 1 somewhat decient guy from the oposition......lol......good work guys.. now take a break you all have earned it........lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjav829 Posted December 10, 2002 Author Share Posted December 10, 2002 Originally posted by hotsoxchick1see i knew it wouldnt take long... you guys are finally getting the kw way of dealing.... its always got to be 3 for 1.....2 good guys and 1 minor player for 1 somewhat decient guy from the oposition......lol......good work guys.. now take a break you all have earned it........lmao Heard anything on the Russ Ortiz front? Come on, we need good news. Hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 the only thing i know is that kw has intentions of going for a pitcher and a catcher... now what we get remains to be heard about... if i hear, dont worry youll be the first ones to know....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjav829 Posted December 10, 2002 Author Share Posted December 10, 2002 Originally posted by hotsoxchick1the only thing i know is that kw has intentions of going for a pitcher and a catcher... now what we get remains to be heard about... if i hear, dont worry youll be the first ones to know....... I heard that a deal could happen between the Sox and Cubs for Damian Miller. Im assuming that it would be contingent on the Cubs getting Rodriguez first. Thanks for letting us know what you hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 well i did hear that the flubs were close to dealing with i rod.... amazing isnt it... they get rid of hundley and may get irod in the same season.... who would have thunk it......lol.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 I dont' want Damian Miller, too expensive for a veteran catcher. Still, if it didn't cost us a thing prospect wise, I'd consider it. Of course, with Miller, Manuel, will probably get too tempted and start him over Olivo, and I don't want to see that happening until Olivo shows he should be in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 no kidding.. i dont want anything to take away play time from olivo... im so hyped hes up here finally..... wish we could get alomar back for a season... at least with him we know he wouldnt require alot of play time and he could mentor olivo in the process...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Thats why I love the idea of Chad Kreuter. The guy is solid at the plate, and is really good at calling a game. I hear him interviewed on the radio all the time and he's a great clubhouse leader and his team-mates love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 be that as it may.. i know mark and the guys in the pen loved sandy just as much..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 I wouldn't doubt it. Therefor, I'd like picking Alomar back up. Is he a free agent again? I thought the Rocks had him one more year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Originally posted by abozichiuI'd say it would take a package of Lee, Rauch and probably Ginter/Biddle to grab him. Would this be a risk you'd be willing to take? Lee and another one of our better prospects, but not Rauch. Maybe Munoz or someone similar. Id do that in a second! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Originally posted by hotsoxchick1no kidding.. i dont want anything to take away play time from olivo... im so hyped hes up here finally..... wish we could get alomar back for a season... at least with him we know he wouldnt require alot of play time and he could mentor olivo in the process...... we should hope we get anybody to play before olvio. what an inprovement that will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 If Alomar re-signs....... I gaurantee he starts over Miguel. We need to get a guy like Krueter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 i honestly think that the package of rauch and lee is way tooooo expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 I'm with ya, way too expensive. I won't give up Rauch, no way. The guy is the only pitcher we have thats in the minors that is ready right now, at least starting wise. Plus, the guy is really good. To me he's ready to be our #5 starter, but I'll only accept him their off the bat if we bring in a real good #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnI'm with ya, way too expensive. I won't give up Rauch, no way. The guy is the only pitcher we have thats in the minors that is ready right now, at least starting wise. Plus, the guy is really good. To me he's ready to be our #5 starter, but I'll only accept him their off the bat if we bring in a real good #2. now i would give a package of lee and rauch for 2 or 3 of sd young pit prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 You guys must be underestimating Russ Ortiz. Look at his stats, he is much better than Garland or Wright. Although he might not be worth Lee and Rauch, he is definitely a #2 starter and could develop into a #1 type guy. Remember, he started some game 1's for San Fran in the playoffs and came up with some great performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 ahh shut up ldf lol.... murc.. if we did get alomar back he wouldnt be playing over olivo.. espically since olivo is one of kw's kids.....and i actually think if they did bring sandy back he would be only for one year and they would most likely put him in as coaching or something like that... it was mentioned once before in the begining of last season......of course we had to be rid of his money ......but from who i know of the pitching staff they really did like him alot and missed him when he left.....i think that colorado does have him for one more year though... ill have to recheck to be sure though......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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