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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 3, 2012 -> 02:39 AM)
Left danks in to long Friday and ohman today.

 

Danks being in "too long" against Red Sox doesn't even compare to how long he left Gavin in when they lost at Oakland.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:40 PM)
Alex Rios is 6'5". It doesn't appear he can dunk.

 

It's not so much that he can't jump, it's just much more difficult than it looks to time it properly and jump from the correct place

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QUOTE (Capn12 @ May 3, 2012 -> 02:39 AM)
All around bad night on the mound this evening...it happens

 

s*** happens every other day when you are a .500 team which is the Sox destiny.

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QUOTE (Jake @ May 3, 2012 -> 02:41 AM)
It's not so much that he can't jump, it's just much more difficult than it looks to time it properly and jump from the correct place

 

He can't jump...go back and watch Hosmer's homer off of Santos last year to tie the game at the Cell.

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Anybody questioning Ohman being used AT ALL you're nuts. The Sox have TWO guys right now you can trust coming out of the pen. In a lefty-heavy line-up, this was a perfect night for Ohman to pitch. YES...Robin let him go a batter too long, but for those of you saying "why was Ohman pitching at all" you're wrong. Reed and Thornton were going to go the 8th and 9th. Who would you suggest using for the 7th? Santiago? Axelrod? Stewart? Jones?

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QUOTE (Jake @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:41 PM)
It's not so much that he can't jump, it's just much more difficult than it looks to time it properly and jump from the correct place

Michael Jordan in his prime wouldn't have grabbed this one, but sticking a piece of paper under Rios during his "leap" would have been difficult.

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The White Sox had a chance to sell Matt Thornton. Much like they had a chance to sell Bobby Jenks.

 

They did not sell Bobby Jenks and wound up getting nothing for him.

 

They have yet to sell Matt Thornton, and they will wind up getting nothing for him as well.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:41 PM)
s*** happens every other day when you are a .500 team which is the Sox destiny.

 

Which Greg are you tonight? The unhappy camper version?

 

Darned White Sox, 5-8, at home!!! BOO!! Why would any fans come out and support this crapfest?

 

Ozzie Guillen would have deftly managed through the 7th and 8th and led the Sox to victory, etc. Ozzie Guillen will make the Hall of Fame after his managerial career is over since we provided so much on the job training here in Chicago...whereas Ventura's lucky to make the Oklahoma State Hall of Fame.

 

 

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:45 PM)
The White Sox had a chance to sell Matt Thornton. Much like they had a chance to sell Bobby Jenks.

 

They did not sell Bobby Jenks and wound up getting nothing for him.

 

They have yet to sell Matt Thornton, and they will wind up getting nothing for him as well.

Because he gave up a home run?

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QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 3, 2012 -> 03:43 AM)
Anybody questioning Ohman being used AT ALL you're nuts. The Sox have TWO guys right now you can trust coming out of the pen. In a lefty-heavy line-up, this was a perfect night for Ohman to pitch. YES...Robin let him go a batter too long, but for those of you saying "why was Ohman pitching at all" you're wrong. Reed and Thornton were going to go the 8th and 9th. Who would you suggest using for the 7th? Santiago? Axelrod? Stewart? Jones?

 

With the lefty heavy line-up it would have made more sense to use Thorton situationally. Ohman already pitched last night; it did not make sense for him to pitch so much tonight. Doesn't really matter though as Thorton was terrible.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:45 PM)
The White Sox had a chance to sell Matt Thornton. Much like they had a chance to sell Bobby Jenks.

 

They did not sell Bobby Jenks and wound up getting nothing for him.

 

They have yet to sell Matt Thornton, and they will wind up getting nothing for him as well.

 

Id didnt realize you were in the room with Kenny while he was fielding calls for Matt.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2012 -> 02:45 AM)
Which Greg are you tonight? The unhappy camper version?

 

Darned White Sox, 5-8, at home!!! BOO!! Why would any fans come out and support this crapfest?

 

Ozzie Guillen would have deftly managed through the 7th and 8th and led the Sox to victory, etc. Ozzie Guillen will make the Hall of Fame after his managerial career is over since we provided so much on the job training here in Chicago...whereas Ventura's lucky to make the Oklahoma State Hall of Fame.

 

You are crazy.

I haven't said a word about Robin's managing tonight or any night.

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QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:43 PM)
Anybody questioning Ohman being used AT ALL you're nuts. The Sox have TWO guys right now you can trust coming out of the pen. In a lefty-heavy line-up, this was a perfect night for Ohman to pitch. YES...Robin let him go a batter too long, but for those of you saying "why was Ohman pitching at all" you're wrong. Reed and Thornton were going to go the 8th and 9th. Who would you suggest using for the 7th? Santiago? Axelrod? Stewart? Jones?

 

 

Everything was fine until he didn't use Thornton to get Kotchmann (when Ohman was clearly wearing down in a multiple inning performance which he's not used to) and then using Reed against their best RBI guy with a runner already on 2nd.

 

Or just bringing in Reed one batter earlier, when the runner was only on 1st and you weren't facing Hannahan. That would have been okay, TOO.

 

I suppose that's good for Reed to get a feel for closing, but not really the ideal position you want to put him in there, that's for sure.

 

The splits for Hannahan R/L were pretty much irrefutable in terms of the right move there (or not).

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2012 -> 03:48 AM)
Everything was fine until he didn't use Thornton to get Kotchmann (when Ohman was clearly wearing down in a multiple inning performance which he's not used to) and then using Reed against their best RBI guy with a runner already on 2nd.

 

Well, that's good for Reed to get a feel for closing, but not really the ideal position you want to put him in, that's for sure.

 

The splits for Hannahan R/L were pretty much irrefutable in terms of the right move there (or not).

 

Great, great post. Will Ohman isn't some rookie who you want to see how long you can stretch them out for.

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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 2, 2012 -> 09:45 PM)
With the lefty heavy line-up it would have made more sense to use Thorton situationally. Ohman already pitched last night; it did not make sense for him to pitch so much tonight. Doesn't really matter though as Thorton was terrible.

 

So Thornton starts the 7th. Who pitches the 8th and 9th? Reed then Santiago? Or do you pich Matt 2 innings before entering Reed for the 9th?

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2012 -> 03:50 AM)
So everyone wants Reed closing but is upset Robin put him in versus a LH hitter? If he's closer material, he should be able to get lefties out.

 

Sure, let him start the inning. But putting him in there against a guy who's so much better against righties than lefties, it just gave him no wiggle room.

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QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 3, 2012 -> 03:49 AM)
So Thornton starts the 7th. Who pitches the 8th and 9th? Reed then Santiago? Or do you pich Matt 2 innings before entering Reed for the 9th?

 

I would have much rather seen Thorton in for two innings than Ohman, sure. It's really not worth arguing over though because all of Reed, Ohman, and Thorton ended up screwing up.

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