RockRaines Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:23 PM) Hell, the Sox could send another player and it'd still be good. I'd type my celebration post with my giant boner if that happened, but it wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 fathom would be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) fathom would be happy. Until Youk got here, then he would have to hate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:18 PM) It would still be a good trade for the White Sox, in my opinion. I disagree. Youkilis is old and falling apart, what good does he do you this season? Paying him $13 million next year would just be dumb. I'd rather not trade Thornton for an injured washed up ballplayer, I thought everyone wanted to rebuild? This would be the complete opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:13 PM) Why do you make things up? Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington said Kevin Youkilis (back) will retain his job as the starting third baseman when he's healthy, despite the strong start for Middlebrooks (hamstring), the Boston Globe reports. I didn't make things up, that was the story yesterday. I'm sure glad the White Sox don't have the same policy or Jerry Owens would have been playing instead of Carlos Quentin in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) fathom would be happy. Everybody would. That would spell the end of Brent Morel. He's just terrible and I can't believe I fell for that September run. Never again. The White Sox do not do home-grown position players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) I disagree. Youkilis is old and falling apart, what good does he do you this season? Paying him $13 million next year would just be dumb. I'd rather not trade Thornton for an injured washed up ballplayer, I thought everyone wanted to rebuild? This would be the complete opposite. I agree. If you trade Matt, you trade him for some sort of cheap players. In the Sox situation, you don't trade him to add payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Thornton, Quintana+ for Youk book it lol...I dont think its a complete pipe dream as some of you think, we dont know how much money the sox have and it makes a whole helluva a lot of since for Youk to be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) I didn't make things up, that was the story yesterday. I'm sure glad the White Sox don't have the same policy or Jerry Owens would have been playing instead of Carlos Quentin in 2008. Jerry Owens =/= Kevin Youkilis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) Everybody would. That would spell the end of Brent Morel. He's just terrible and I can't believe I fell for that September run. Never again. The White Sox do not do home-grown position players. I would like to point out that I very vocally and adamantly did NOT fall for that September run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) Everybody would. That would spell the end of Brent Morel. He's just terrible and I can't believe I fell for that September run. Never again. The White Sox do not do home-grown position players. If your for a total rebuild, picking up Youkilis makes zero sense. It makes the Sox a bit better, most likely costs them more money. Hurts their draft position and costs them money to be spend developing and signing players. Edited May 9, 2012 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) I disagree. Youkilis is old and falling apart, what good does he do you this season? Paying him $13 million next year would just be dumb. I'd rather not trade Thornton for an injured washed up ballplayer, I thought everyone wanted to rebuild? This would be the complete opposite. And for the anti-rebuild guys, you get a recognizable name that will boost revenue. Youk sported an OPS well over .900 in '10. He doesn't hurt you defensively at 3B. And he boots one of the worst players in baseball sans one fluke month the last year+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) If your for a total rebuild, picking up Youkilis makes zero sense. It makes the Sox a bit better, most likely costs them more money. Hurts their draft position and costs them money to be spend developing and signing players. Yeah, but this would be a freebee. Peavy's coming off the books after this year. You just gonna sit on that money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:36 PM) Jerry Owens =/= Kevin Youkilis The guy who took the struggling Youkilis' place has 7 extra base hits in 22 AB and an OPS over 1.400. Bobby V and Youkilis don't get along and Youkilis is starting to get banged up pretty regularly and his production is starting to drop. I think the Red Sox will dump him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) If your for a total rebuild, picking up Youkilis makes zero sense. It makes the Sox a bit better, most likely costs them more money. Hurts their draft position and costs them money to be spend developing and signing players. Youk's numbers have taken a pretty big hit over the last few years. Let's just say it makes me wonder about what has changed in the last couple years in baseball that could make ones offensive numbers drop, and affect your health... if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Everyone is discussing the merits of Youk way too seriously given this deal really should never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) Everyone is discussing the merits of Youk way too seriously given this deal really should never happen. [like] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) Yeah, but this would be a freebee. Peavy's coming off the books after this year. You just gonna sit on that money? Yesterday the Sox should trade Konerko, now Youkilis is a freebe? That would be rebuilding on the fly, the exact same thing you rip them for doing now. I'll use one of your lines, the White Sox aren't going to win a WS for the 2 years Youkilis has on his contract, he'd be a waste to pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) Everyone is discussing the merits of Youk way too seriously given this deal really should never happen. For more than a few reasons. If this was the 2011 White Sox, when they were "all in", it makes perfect sense, at least from their end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) Youk's numbers have taken a pretty big hit over the last few years. Let's just say it makes me wonder about what has changed in the last couple years in baseball that could make ones offensive numbers drop, and affect your health... if you know what I mean. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) And for the anti-rebuild guys, you get a recognizable name that will boost revenue. Youk sported an OPS well over .900 in '10. He doesn't hurt you defensively at 3B. And he boots one of the worst players in baseball sans one fluke month the last year+. While only playing 102 games in '10. OPS was down to .833 last year in only 120 games. He's missed half the games his year with a .635 OPS. I realize that Morel is bad at baseball and I am sick of him too. But Thornton still has trade value and I don't see how dumping him for an aging, injured player who won't be around in 2013 makes any sense right now. It sounds like the type of move everyone wants KW fired for in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Boston is not that stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Since we are talking about fantasy trades, I would rather have Josh Hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 9, 2012 -> 10:58 AM) Only a Chicago writer would think that is a fair trade. Yeah, you're right. I'd at least be looking for Pedroia throw-in as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 9, 2012 -> 12:41 PM) The guy who took the struggling Youkilis' place has 7 extra base hits in 22 AB and an OPS over 1.400. Bobby V and Youkilis don't get along and Youkilis is starting to get banged up pretty regularly and his production is starting to drop. I think the Red Sox will dump him. It's 22 at bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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