Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) When you work your muscles very aggressively, they can sure feel similar... I don't know every kind of soreness, but man, there's a huge difference between "overworked" and "something actually wrong" in me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 03:13 PM) Escobar's produced just about as much as me. And you've produced just about as much as Dewayne Wise. If Ozzie Guillen gave you playing time, Greg would love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) Sore and pain are about the same to me. The Sox examined him. The found it to be a muscular problem. PTACT, who is a trainer of some sort, (although he might not play fantasy baseball so he might not really know what he's talking about) said an MRI wouldn't show anything more than the exam the Sox gave him. It didn't. He wanted the MRI. i never once said i understand the medical aspects of baseball. not once. i've always maintained that Sale as a starter is more valuable than Sale as a reliever, injury potential or not. and a team should always err on the side that will potentially give them the most value. Sale could have and probably would blow out his arm whether he's a starter OR a reliever, so why not have him START until that happens, and have him start once he's back. This has been my position all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 08:11 PM) And you love the attention QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2012 -> 08:12 PM) And Escobar's produced just about as much as Wise, you just don't like him because it's only great to overplay a backup player if it's Ozzie Guillen. 1.) Yeah I can't wait until somebody brings up Juan, Wise, Dye or Pods or Oz. 2.) Is Mr. Wise's picture still on the outfield wall or did the Sox have to take it down since they ridiculously let Buehrle walk? I hope Escobar contributes something to have his face planted on teh wall someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:16 PM) I don't know every kind of soreness, but man, there's a huge difference between "overworked" and "something actually wrong" in me. When you have soreness, initially, it can feel very, very similarly... Remember, a lot of times these guys are pushing through pain, because he doctor tells them they can't really make things any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2012 -> 03:18 PM) 1.) Yeah I can't wait until somebody brings up Juan, Wise, Dye or Pods or Oz. 2.) Is Mr. Wise's picture still on the outfield wall or did the Sox have to take it down since they ridiculously let Buehrle walk? I hope Escobar contributes something to have his face planted on teh wall someday. Escobar would make a fine late-game defensive replacement to give the middle infield more rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:09 PM) No, cause Escobar has done nothing; Wise produced and still is in baseball, on the NY Yankees. Just as Juan Pierre is still in baseball. Wise and Pierre are not in the same stratosphere in terms of production at the major league level. Pierre used to be a lock for 200 hits a season for quite a long time, with at least 30 stolen bases. Wise probably hasn't had that type of production for his entire career. Escobar and Wise are very similar in that they both don't really belong at the major league level for anything more than 25th guy on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:18 PM) i never once said i understand the medical aspects of baseball. not once. i've always maintained that Sale as a starter is more valuable than Sale as a reliever, injury potential or not. and a team should always err on the side that will potentially give them the most value. Sale could have and probably would blow out his arm whether he's a starter OR a reliever, so why not have him START until that happens, and have him start once he's back. This has been my position all along. Do you see how contradictory this paragraph is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:18 PM) 1.) Yeah I can't wait until somebody brings up Juan, Wise, Dye or Pods or Oz. 2.) Is Mr. Wise's picture still on the outfield wall or did the Sox have to take it down since they ridiculously let Buehrle walk? I hope Escobar contributes something to have his face planted on teh wall someday. I think there was just words that said "The catch". I don't think they made the cut in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Viciedo makes too many outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:19 PM) Do you see how contradictory this paragraph is? nope... i honestly dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Here we go on Frenchy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 hmph, i'm noticing pink arm bands, but did MLB stop doing the "We'll auction off game used pink bats" for mothers day this year? I'm not seeing anyone using a pink bat and flipping channels to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 If we say Escobar sucks enough, he will produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) nope... i honestly dont You first state how you know nothing about medical issues as they relate to baseball; you then tell us that Chris will blow his arm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) hmph, i'm noticing pink arm bands, but did MLB stop doing the "We'll auction off game used pink bats" for mothers day this year? I'm not seeing anyone using a pink bat and flipping channels to check. Dunn and Rios have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) You first state how you know nothing about medical issues as they relate to baseball; you then tell us that Chris will blow his arm out. he has an inverted W motion. it almost always happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 08:22 PM) If we say Escobar sucks enough, he will produce. Maybe I should try that on Viciedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:22 PM) hmph, i'm noticing pink arm bands, but did MLB stop doing the "We'll auction off game used pink bats" for mothers day this year? I'm not seeing anyone using a pink bat and flipping channels to check. Dunn, Rios to name a few...and Gordon on their team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) Dunn and Rios have them.TY. Fair to say there's fewer of them this year? (Guessing not something MLB wants to make a big deal of after Komen made fools of themselves earlier this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) he has an inverted W motion. it almost always happens. No, this is what you read in a fan graphs article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sox leaving way too many people on base today. Morel's looked much better the last two nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:23 PM) he has an inverted W motion. it almost always happens. Do you have some examples of pitchers with the inverted W motion who blew out their elbow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2012 -> 03:25 PM) Sox leaving way too many people on base today. Morel's looked much better the last two nights. After seeing his swings the last 2 days, i'm wondering how bad his back really was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 What a string of non hitters that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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