Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:25 PM) Do you have some examples of pitchers with the inverted W motion who blew out their elbow? Strasburg, Marcum, Zimmermann, Pineda, Prior, Smoltz, Wainwright, CJ Wilson That enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) No, this is what you read in a fan graphs article. espn the mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) Strasburg, Marcum, Zimmermann, Pineda, Prior, Smoltz, Wainwright, CJ Wilson That enough? Funny how you Google inverted W, those are the guys that pop up. You're the google king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) Funny how you Google inverted W, those are the guys that pop up. You're the google king. 1) i didn't have to, I recently read an article, like i mentioned 2) does googling something make it less true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) Strasburg, Marcum, Zimmermann, Pineda, Prior, Smoltz, Wainwright, CJ Wilson That enough? …the whole theory about the Inverted W… that Strasburg was labeled as one of those guys who uses that kind of arm action… the theory that those guys break down more often… there’s no actual evidence for this and there’s no proof… most people who study pitching mechanics disagree with the theory. Driveline mechanics There is a lot of controversy regarding the inverted W theory...there is certainly not enough evidence to be able to state that everyone who has the motion will blow out their arm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:31 PM) 1) i didn't have to, I recently read an article, like i mentioned 2) does googling something make it less true? You did google it. Does anyone with the inverted w, avoid surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:33 PM) Driveline mechanics There is a lot of controversy regarding the inverted W theory...there is certainly not enough evidence to be able to state that everyone who has the motion will blow out their arm... of course not. but there's a very high correlation. i know that doesn't guarantee causation, but nonetheless it happens quite a bit. Chris Sale has an inverted W. His elbow is already flaring up a bit... we really think he's NOT going to hurt his elbow at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) You did google it. Does anyone with the inverted w, avoid surgery? Don't know. Gotta run to work though. Have fun y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) of course not. but there's a very high correlation. i know that doesn't guarantee causation, but nonetheless it happens quite a bit. Chris Sale has an inverted W. His elbow is already flaring up a bit... we really think he's NOT going to hurt his elbow at some point? There are people that know a lot more about pitching mechanics than you or I who disagree with your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Nice Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Flowers did a great job of selling the foul tip catch there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Way to go PH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) Flowers did a great job of selling the foul tip catch there! I thought it just bounced...I was hoping he would tag him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 of course not. but there's a very high correlation. i know that doesn't guarantee causation, but nonetheless it happens quite a bit. Chris Sale has an inverted W. His elbow is already flaring up a bit... we really think he's NOT going to hurt his elbow at some point? You just said it happens all the time, now it doesn't guarantee it. And you pop off people have no idea what they are posting about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The highlight today is Humber showing he can still get guys out. I was beginning to wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Damn you Frenchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 07:38 PM) The highlight today is Humber showing he can still get guys out. I was beginning to wonder. Just checked in to see us up 1-0 and I am in agreement with your assessment of Humber;s outing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sox remain offensively challenged at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2012 -> 08:41 PM) Sox remain offensively challenged at home. Lot of hard hit outs tonight. Just need to find some gaps or clear the fences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) There are people that know a lot more about pitching mechanics than you or I who disagree with your theory. gimme a link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Beckham twice to RF. Must be going that way for a reason? I am hoping he is just trying to go with the pitch cause that will pay off in the end. Dunn also lining one to left for a hit Edited May 13, 2012 by elrockinMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:41 PM) Sox remain offensively challenged at home. They will continue to be offensively challenged until the young guys start to hit or they acquire better hitters. Today's line up was one Sunday line up Ozzie would have been proud of. Duffy leaving was a help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sox hitters continue to be fooled by 3-2 breaking pitches in this series. PK just seems a bit off right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sox are not going to win 1-0 today so they better scratch a few more runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:37 PM) You just said it happens all the time, now it doesn't guarantee it. And you pop off people have no idea what they are posting about. hahaha the phrase 'all the time' is hyperbole. go look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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