chetkincaid Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) AJ and Peavy always seem to be arguing. True. It even got a little physical one time last year, didn't it? I think AJ grabbed Peavy in the dugout. I've seen Alexei Ramirez go after AJ too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) True. It even got a little physical one time last year, didn't it? I think AJ grabbed Peavy in the dugout. I've seen Alexei Ramirez go after AJ too. Gwrbi in ninth. You da man tonite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Just keep winning games for us ODawg and people will love ya. That's not asking too much is it?? Edited June 8, 2012 by EvilJester99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 10:27 PM) Just keep winning games for us ODawg and people will love ya. That's not asking too much is it?? Then again, he didn't make up for the runs he gave away in the field last night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 GET THIS MAN A GLOVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) AJ and Peavy always seem to be arguing. 2 big egos and fiery competitiors. Sometimes they clash I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxmaniac! Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 if this ever becomes a problem between AJ and peavy, peavy would have to be the one to go IMO. AJ needs to finish his career in pinstripes. he has done too much for the organization, id like to see him stay until the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Ajp was shown laughing about the Hudson play. Sounds like they were trying to make a story Oh, thought this was about the going home play. I dont know then. Edited June 8, 2012 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 As of yesterday, Orlando Hudson has contributed far more to this team that Brent Morel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 10:55 AM) If anything, Peavy was sticking up for Hudson because that's Peavy's ball to catch. Its really never a pitcher's ball to catch. I think AJ was more upset with Hudson for not letting the ball go foul than not making the catch. It was clearly headed foul and never touched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Despite the game winning hit last night, I am more than ready for the end of the Orlando Hudson era. It amazes me how a guy who has been in the league as long as he has could be such a baseball idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2012 -> 12:32 PM) Despite the game winning hit last night, I am more than ready for the end of the Orlando Hudson era. It amazes me how a guy who has been in the league as long as he has could be such a baseball idiot. Sometimes you get so caught up thinking that all of your tasks are new at your position that you fail to realize that most of them are the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 8, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Its really never a pitcher's ball to catch. I think AJ was more upset with Hudson for not letting the ball go foul than not making the catch. It was clearly headed foul and never touched. AJ's ball for sure, especially since he tried to catch it (didn't indicate that he couldn't find it). O-Dog clearly thought the ball was touched by the catcher standing underneath it, but he was wrong because AJ made that bad of a play. AJ got pissed at him for not letting the ball go, but AJ is an idiot for whiffing completely on a routine pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 It's the battle of the guy with more overall talent in all areas (but with brain lapses) versus the efficient guy low on talent (Morel). Over the course of a regular season, you have to figure the former guy is of more value than the latter guy. Brain lapses will cost you a game here or there, but having a noodle for a bat will be a year long frustration, ending innings, putting more pressure on other hitters in the lineup, etc. If you see a few bad plays and they frustrate you, and based on that you want to dump a guy, that's bad logic. Evaluations have to be made over longer periods of time than your last four beers consumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jun 8, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) It's the battle of the guy with more overall talent in all areas (but with brain lapses) versus the efficient guy low on talent (Morel). Over the course of a regular season, you have to figure the former guy is of more value than the latter guy. Brain lapses will cost you a game here or there, but having a noodle for a bat will be a year long frustration, ending innings, putting more pressure on other hitters in the lineup, etc. If you see a few bad plays and they frustrate you, and based on that you want to dump a guy, that's bad logic. Evaluations have to be made over longer periods of time than your last four beers consumed. I don't agree with this at all. I think Brent is by far a better defender. If the back was affecting him at all, Brent is probably a better hitter too. Brent's OPS last year is about 100 points above where Hudson's is for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 AAA Brent Morel - .615 OPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Brent Morel has officially suffered a setback in rehab and will return to Chicago for more tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2012 -> 01:36 AM) Brent Morel has officially suffered a setback in rehab and will return to Chicago for more tests. You have to wonder if he's got any chance of returning before the end of the year. It stinks, as it would have been good to see what he could have done healthy this year. Hopefully this forces KW to be more active going after a 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Bring up Ravelo from Kanny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 We'll get about 2 more weeks of Hudson, all the while actively looking at outside sources of 3B. It wouldn't shock me if DV gets work there behind the scenes. If O-Dog turns things around, you'll probably see us stay the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I just can't imagine them wanting to put all that pressure on Viciedo when he's finally comfortable defensively in the outfield and improving. It's just not fair to move a guy from 3B to 1B to RF to LF. I'd actually be more in favor of moving Beckham, and finding a 2B. But it's not a good move when you're taking away a Gold Glove caliber player at his position and creating two weaknesses. If you move Viciedo, we're still not going to get much production out of Jordan Danks, and we might end up setting back Viciedo's career (again). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2012 -> 10:36 PM) I just can't imagine them wanting to put all that pressure on Viciedo when he's finally comfortable defensively in the outfield and improving. It's just not fair to move a guy from 3B to 1B to RF to LF. This can be tough. I'd actually be more in favor of moving Beckham, and finding a 2B. But it's not a good move when you're taking away a Gold Glove caliber player at his position and creating two weaknesses. Your second sentence says it all. If we see Gordo go anywhere, it may be SS at some point down the road (not this year unless there is an injury) If you move Viciedo, we're still not going to get much production out of Jordan Danks, and we might end up setting back Viciedo's career (again). For offense, we're much more likely to have a replacement in LF than 3B or 2B. DV may well be the worst 3B ever which makes the point moot, but Jordan Danks may well be a somewhat productive outfielder. He's immensely talented, young, and was having a hell of a year when we gave him a call. Edited June 9, 2012 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I'd rather release Viciedo than move him back to 3b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2012 -> 11:33 AM) I'd rather release Viciedo than move him back to 3b. Imagine how much better our lineup would be this year and moving forward if he could man the hot corner adequately... but I doubt that he can, especially midseason and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 9, 2012 -> 12:34 PM) Imagine how much better our lineup would be this year and moving forward if he could man the hot corner adequately... but I doubt that he can, especially midseason and all that He can't, and you're darn likely to screw with his bat by changing his focus again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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