It must be said - Hawk Harrelson has to go

[everafan]

AJ will replace Hawk when it's time unless he decides to go national.

[balfanman]

I think either Farmer and DJ absolutely hate each other, or they are the best friends in the world. I can't decide which. There are just way too many uncomfortable moments.

 

I agree with this. I want to think that it must be the latter, but sometimes I'm not so sure. As someone with a wierd sense of humor though, I kinda like em.

[Dick Allen]

I think either Farmer and DJ absolutely hate each other, or they are the best friends in the world. I can't decide which. There are just way too many uncomfortable moments.

I think they are friends. They are both very nice people.

[southsider2k5]

I agree with this. I want to think that it must be the latter, but sometimes I'm not so sure. As someone with a wierd sense of humor though, I kinda like em.

 

I usually do, but every once in a while there is a moment where I swear I can hear Farmer counting so that he doesn't kill DJ.

[balfanman]

I think they are friends. They are both very nice people.

 

That's good to know, they seem like they are.

 

Wasn't Farmer mad at someone else in the booth several years ago, so much so that he built some kind of barricade so that he didn't have to look at them? Maybe it was Harrelson, that would explain a lot of things. I get the feeling that Harrelson is actually a real asshat, but I shouldn't suggest that because I don't know him personally.

Edited May 24, 2012 by balfanman

[balfanman]

I usually do, but every once in a while there is a moment where I swear I can hear Farmer counting so that he doesn't kill DJ.

I know what you mean. I think that it's because D. J. has the personality that likes to put people on the spot, in a comical sort of way and Farmer doesn't know how to respond, whether he wants to go there or not.

[Chicago White Sox]

I think they are friends. They are both very nice people.

Why do you think they're friends? Everytime I listen to them I feel like Farmer wants to kill DJ.

[soxsoxsoxsox]

I mean could you seriously imagine anyone but Hawk doing Mark Buehrle's no hitter a few years ago?"ALEXEIII!!!! YESSS!!!!!!! YESSS!!!!! HISTORY!!!!" It just made it that much better.

 

Call your sons! Call your daughters! Call your friends! Call your neighbors! Mark Buehrle has a perfect game going into the ninth!

[Dick Allen]

Why do you think they're friends? Everytime I listen to them I feel like Farmer wants to kill DJ.

I've been with them on the elevator a few times. They get along there. If they really hated each other, they probably wouldn't be leaving together.

[Rowand44]

I love DJ and Farmer. They provide absolutely 0 baseball insight but they're both complete clowns and entertaining as all hell.

[greg775]

Could this thread be closed or moved?

I think it's disrespectful and petty of the Sox fan base to be critical of a legend like Hawk. I mean WTF? This would be like Cub fans blasting Harry or Sox fans blasting Harry since he was with the Sox so long as well. We're not talking about Steve Physioc here or some unknown.

I repeat ... WTF?

Edited May 24, 2012 by greg775

[Balta1701]

Could this thread be closed or moved?

I think it's disrespectful and petty of the Sox fan base to be critical of a legend like Hawk. I mean WTF? This would be like Cub fans blasting Harry or Sox fans blasting Harry since he was with the Sox so long as well. We're not talking about Steve Physioc here or some unknown.

I repeat ... WTF?

Dude, if Sox fans weren't allowed to blast Harry Carry in the 90's because he was with them 2 decades beforehand, then I crossed a whole lot of lines.

[Paint it Black]

Note - professional broadcaster, not hack ex-player.

 

This is a pipe dream. Hell we're talking about the White Sox. In this org, all job qualifications worth a damn start with "Are you a former White Sox player?"

 

The sad thing too is, the radio broadcast sucks even harder than the TV. One game I got so sick of Hawk I lined up the TV with the radio call (with DVR obviously) and DJ annoys me more than Hawk.

[Jake]

AJ will replace Hawk when it's time unless he decides to go national.

 

LOL, could be crazy enough to work. I'm not sure if AJ would be able to be both emotional and articulate at the same time. More of a nut-kicker than a talker

 

...hmmm....O-Hudson for broadcaster! Would work well if the game was happening at 2x speed

[greg775]

Dude, if Sox fans weren't allowed to blast Harry Carry in the 90's because he was with them 2 decades beforehand, then I crossed a whole lot of lines.

 

I'm just saying it's crazy and petty that sox fans on a Sox message board are blasting Hawk Harrelson. The guy may be the face of our franchise now that he is gone. This would be like blasting Paulie. It makes no sense and just seems anti-Chicago. The greatest city in the world and yet Sox fans (some of them) are blasting this legend in this thread. Weird.

I just figure out of respect it should be in the filibuster area.

Also, Hawk isn't leaving anytime soon, God willing health wise, and it seems dumb to arbitrarily blast him all season long (from now on if this threat lives).

Edited May 24, 2012 by greg775

[iamshack]

I'm just saying it's crazy and petty that sox fans on a Sox message board are blasting Hawk Harrelson. The guy may be the face of our franchise now that he is gone. This would be like blasting Paulie. It makes no sense and just seems anti-Chicago. The greatest city in the world and yet Sox fans (some of them) are blasting this legend in this thread. Weird.

I just figure out of respect it should be in the filibuster area.

Also, Hawk isn't leaving anytime soon, God willing health wise, and it seems dumb to arbitrarily blast him all season long (from now on if this threat lives).

What is this, Russia, Danny? This isn't Russia, is it?

[sunofgold]

I don't want the Hawk to go, but if we trade him what can we get? Will the Hawk waive his no-trade clause? Maybe the Red Sox would take him b/c he has a lot of good Red Sox stories. What can we get in return from Boston?

 

[IlliniKrush]

I'm just saying it's crazy and petty that sox fans on a Sox message board are blasting Hawk Harrelson. The guy may be the face of our franchise now that he is gone. This would be like blasting Paulie. It makes no sense and just seems anti-Chicago. The greatest city in the world and yet Sox fans (some of them) are blasting this legend in this thread. Weird.

I just figure out of respect it should be in the filibuster area.

Also, Hawk isn't leaving anytime soon, God willing health wise, and it seems dumb to arbitrarily blast him all season long (from now on if this threat lives).

No, because Paulie doesn't absolutely suck at his job.

[Chicago White Sox]

I'm just saying it's crazy and petty that sox fans on a Sox message board are blasting Hawk Harrelson. The guy may be the face of our franchise now that he is gone. This would be like blasting Paulie. It makes no sense and just seems anti-Chicago. The greatest city in the world and yet Sox fans (some of them) are blasting this legend in this thread. Weird.

I just figure out of respect it should be in the filibuster area.

Also, Hawk isn't leaving anytime soon, God willing health wise, and it seems dumb to arbitrarily blast him all season long (from now on if this threat lives).

Where are you originally from in Chicago and how did you wind up in Lawrence?

[winninguglyin83]

Hawk called Butera Joe Mauer on a pop up in the second inning.

 

He called Rios' double a home run.

 

and he just called Willingham Mauer rounding third.

 

Slipping.

[greg775]

No, because Paulie doesn't absolutely suck at his job.

 

 

Where are you originally from in Chicago and how did you wind up in Lawrence?

 

1.) Hawk doesn't suck at his job, either. Cmon. He's entertaining which is more than you can say for most of the clowns on other teams' broadcasts.

2.) I am from Mt. Greenwood, went to Queen of Martyrs then Brother Rice, played basketball and baseball. Came out this way for college, moved and returned later for work.

Used to hate the Royals, but now I feel sorry for them and enough is enough and I wouldn't mind them winning if the Sox can't. I don't root for them, though. Just don't care enough to do that. Don't like the Chiefs either.

[nickofypres]

I would love a new play by play man who can bring excitement without horrible catch phrases and mad homerism. I used to really like Hawk when I was younger, but he's nothing more than a grumpy old guy to me at this point.

 

I guess the question is, who would you replace him with?

 

Josh Lewin?

 

He's doing radio games for the Mets, but I'm sure he'd rather have a TV gig.

Edited May 25, 2012 by whitesox901

[caulfield12]

1.) Hawk doesn't suck at his job, either. Cmon. He's entertaining which is more than you can say for most of the clowns on other teams' broadcasts.

2.) I am from Mt. Greenwood, went to Queen of Martyrs then Brother Rice, played basketball and baseball. Came out this way for college, moved and returned later for work.

Used to hate the Royals, but now I feel sorry for them and enough is enough and I wouldn't mind them winning if the Sox can't. I don't root for them, though. Just don't care enough to do that. Don't like the Chiefs either.

 

 

So criticizing Hawk=criticizing Ozzie Guillen?

 

Is there any difference?

 

Wouldn't Robin Ventura fall into the same category as a "Sox legend," that we can't criticize him as a manager?

 

Or Frank Thomas, if he was in the broadcasting booth?

 

 

Greg, let's think about this for a second. Bill Walton and Magic Johnson are 2 of the most famous players in NBA history, particularly Magic. Do you think any Lakers or NBA fan would say it's unfair to criticize them for their downright horrible broadcasting abilities, which have no discernible connection with their playing careers or importance to their various franchises?

 

Maybe Robin Ventura was picked to partially deflect some of the fans' dissatisfaction away from KW and the current state of the franchise. After all, had they picked your guy Francona, then they would have created more of a "win now" mentality and fans would be less forgiving with an outsider (comparatively, of course he managed Jordan with the Barons back in the day) at the helm.

 

Or Bill Melton, for example. He's MUCH worse than Harrelson, he's borderline indecipherable or incoherent. Should we be precluded from criticizing him?

 

Someone might express admiration for Hawk's lasting this long as a broadcaster with the Sox, over so many years...yet others would quickly say he's just not good anymore for the team or its future and not be wrong. At least with Harry, the Cubs were "lovable" and it became part of their brand and image. Does Harrelson add to or detract from the bottom line? I would have a hard time imagining many teenagers or 20-somethings that he appeals to...as opposed to fans in their 30's, 40's and 50's (and above).

Edited May 25, 2012 by caulfield12

[th0mas35]

Long time lurker...infrequent poster but I'm 27...sox fan since I was around 10 and I absolutely love hawk. I guess your demographic is way younger than me..

I like the fact that he's a homer and is biased. I agree with others when I say it's sorta blasphemous to even attempting to remove hawk. Watching sox games won't be the same when he steps down IMO

 

 

So criticizing Hawk=criticizing Ozzie Guillen?

 

Is there any difference?

 

Wouldn't Robin Ventura fall into the same category as a "Sox legend," that we can't criticize him as a manager?

 

Or Frank Thomas, if he was in the broadcasting booth?

 

 

Greg, let's think about this for a second. Bill Walton and Magic Johnson are 2 of the most famous players in NBA history, particularly Magic. Do you think any Lakers or NBA fan would say it's unfair to criticize them for their downright horrible broadcasting abilities, which have no discernible connection with their playing careers or importance to their various franchises?

 

Maybe Robin Ventura was picked to partially deflect some of the fans' dissatisfaction away from KW and the current state of the franchise. After all, had they picked your guy Francona, then they would have created more of a "win now" mentality and fans would be less forgiving with an outsider (comparatively, of course he managed Jordan with the Barons back in the day) at the helm.

 

Or Bill Melton, for example. He's MUCH worse than Harrelson, he's borderline indecipherable or incoherent. Should we be precluded from criticizing him?

 

Someone might express admiration for Hawk's lasting this long as a broadcaster with the Sox, over so many years...yet others would quickly say he's just not good anymore for the team or its future and not be wrong. At least with Harry, the Cubs were "lovable" and it became part of their brand and image. Does Harrelson add to or detract from the bottom line? I would have a hard time imagining many teenagers or 20-somethings that he appeals to...as opposed to fans in their 30's, 40's and 50's (and above).

 

[southsider2k5]

Hawk called Butera Joe Mauer on a pop up in the second inning.

 

He called Rios' double a home run.

 

and he just called Willingham Mauer rounding third.

 

Slipping.

 

He had a really bad night. Even the AJ homer was bad, but then again, AJ had quit running and was still carrying his bat when it hit the poll, so I will give him a pass on that one. The winds were wild last night.