IlliniKrush Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Your post couldn't have been more spot on. Hawk is terrible as an announcer. Homers want him because he "roots for the team." Who gives a s***? Invite the old Sox fan next door to watch the game with you, that will take care of it. In the mean time, I can get actual play by play and insight into the game. You know what else? He's beyond biased, always ripping umpires...but never admitting when the Sox get a break. WHERE WAS THAT PITCH? He actually detracts from the game at this point. It's beyond old and tiresome. For those who "can't imagine a game without Hawk," you must be scared to leave the house in the morning for fear of the unpredictable. Also...Cubs fans who loved Santo = Sox fans that love Hawk. Let that sink in. Edited May 22, 2012 by IlliniKrush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:37 PM) No, I get it, I totally get it. I Just have a different idea of what a quality play by play guy should bring, and it should be more than catch phrases. Also, Stacey at least references players who played the last two decades. I also grew a bit tired of Stacey's schtick this year because it was clear he was piling on the catch phrases ad nauseum right around when he was launching his new t-shirt line. Oh yeah, did I mention Hawk is the play by play guy? Because that was the point that you have missed here. Sorry you didn't understand that. Also, NBA Basketball is inherently faster moving and more entertaining in a moment by moment basis. Baseball requires analysis and conversation that is engaging, and Hawk rarely if ever provides anything other than catch phrases and references to dinosaurs. I apologize for offending your inner meatball, however. Wow thank you for telling me what I already know and write on constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:38 PM) For those who "can't imagine a game without Hawk," you must be scared to leave the house in the morning for fear of the unpredictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:39 PM) Wow thank you for telling me what I already know and write on constantly. What in the f***? this reply makes negative sense given your position just a few posts ago. Get a grip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Getting rid of someone fine...the question is who do you replace him with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:41 PM) What in the f***? this reply makes negative sense given your position just a few posts ago. Get a grip! I said thank you for explaining basketball and baseball to me. I honestly didnt know how they were played 2 seconds before you posted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:41 PM) I said thank you for explaining basketball and baseball to me. I honestly didnt know how they were played 2 seconds before you posted that. I see what you are trying to do. I commend you, you are trying really really hard, but for the good of everyone you can stop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Back on topic - Hawk is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Yeah, I'm over Hawk. He's been the Sox announcer for as long as I've known about baseball and have loved his calls in the past, but yeah, he's got to go. The idea that Hawk being passionate somehow makes him a good announcer doesn't make sense to me. I'm passionate about the Sox, I don't need to guy calling the games to be that way. I wan't him to just... call the game. Of course he's not going to go anywhere unless nature...uh, takes it's course. I became of fan of Josh Lewin when he was calling Ranger games a few years ago. Just the right amount of excitement without bordering on being a Homer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2012 -> 03:36 PM) Cases in point. The people who are tired of Hawk are not talking about his being a homer, or getting excited. Those are both good things (to at least some extent). That is not what people dislike. People want an announcer who likes the Sox and shows it, but who is also... you know... a competent announcer? The original poster mentioned that he did not want the pbp man to be a homer. Hawk is a homer. So would we be fine with a "professional" pbp guy and Hawk as the color man, since that person is for some reason allowed to be a homer? Tell us all what makes an announcer competent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 During this trying time, it is sad to me to see Sox fans arguing with each other. Can't Konerko just be the announcer now? If Vitale can do it with one eye, so can PK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:46 PM) I see what you are trying to do. I commend you, you are trying really really hard, but for the good of everyone you can stop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Cali @ May 22, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) Yeah, I'm over Hawk. He's been the Sox announcer for as long as I've known about baseball and have loved his calls in the past, but yeah, he's got to go. The idea that Hawk being passionate somehow makes him a good announcer doesn't make sense to me. I'm passionate about the Sox, I don't need to guy calling the games to be that way. I wan't him to just... call the game. Of course he's not going to go anywhere unless nature...uh, takes it's course. I became of fan of Josh Lewin when he was calling Ranger games a few years ago. Just the right amount of excitement without bordering on being a Homer. Lewin actually broke in doing Cubs games, replacing the Chipster (or is it Skip?) from time to time... Talk about catch phrases though...MOVE THOSE CHAINS! Edited May 22, 2012 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Im just wondering who is going to replace Hawk then? Any names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:47 PM) The original poster mentioned that he did not want the pbp man to be a homer. Hawk is a homer. So would we be fine with a "professional" pbp guy and Hawk as the color man, since that person is for some reason allowed to be a homer? Tell us all what makes an announcer competent... This post is ridiculous and blatantly ignores what "the original poster" posted. You are keying on one word in there and ignoring everything around it. Hawk's schtick - I am finally tired of it. You could just have a Hawkbot at this point and really have no idea he wasn't actually there. Cue up his catch phrases and have someone record player names in his voice. As for Stone, I think he's brilliant, and with the right sportscaster he can be great, but with Hawk it just doesn't work. The reason is simple - no one with Hawk will work. He always turns it into a dick measuring contest, cuts the other broadcaster off, and winds up telling me about some garbage player from the Red Sox in the late 60s. The tv feed needs a breath of fresh air, and someone who went to broadcasting school, a real broadcaster, doing the play by play, and then save the homerism and the baseball references for a guy like Frank Thomas to be the color analyst. Plenty of substance. Hawk would be a terrible color guy because he still doesn't work well with anyone. Edited May 22, 2012 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) Im just wondering who is going to replace Hawk then? Any names? That's the real problem. We've seen how much "New guys" have struggled when brought in, not just to the Sox (Singleton, DJ) but elsewhere around baseball. There's really no balance that seems to keep everyone happy outside of "Vin Scully". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) That's the real problem. We've seen how much "New guys" have struggled when brought in, not just to the Sox (Singleton, DJ) but elsewhere around baseball. There's really no balance that seems to keep everyone happy outside of "Vin Scully". Yeah it either seems you get the extreme homer or the guy who knows the game as well as anyone but is dull as ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 05:56 PM) Yeah it either seems you get the extreme homer or the guy who knows the game as well as anyone but is dull as ****. I don't even know that the dull as bleep guys know the game all that well. I certainly don't hear as many good stories with those guys as I get with the extreme homer guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) Im just wondering who is going to replace Hawk then? Any names? I agree....I have seen the other 60-70 guys that do this job and I can tell you most of them suck ass... One of my personal favorites is Jim Palmer. Mark Grace does a nice job for the DBacks. Don Orsillo is good on Nesn. Of course I love Vin Scully. Ray Fosse is excellent in Oakland, and Glen Kuiper, their pbp man is pretty solid too. Other than that there aren't a whole lot of guys I can tolerate, whether they are color guys or pbp. Some especially awful guys? Dick Bremer on the Twins broadcast, Rick Manning in Cleveland (talk about a dick), Buck Martinez in Toronto, Gary Thorne in Baltimore, Mark Gubicza and Victor Rojas in Anaheim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 22, 2012 -> 03:06 PM) Duh, even Stoney is lost for words at times. Hawk's act is very old and getting worse. It's sad they named the broad Att booth or whatever after him. One of the worst in the bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) This post is ridiculous and blatantly ignores what "the original poster" posted. You are keying on one word in there and ignoring everything around it. Plenty of substance. Hawk would be a terrible color guy because he still doesn't work well with anyone. No, you're just trying to defend one of your supporters. One of your main qualms about Harrelson is his homerism, and you made that clear in your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 05:23 PM) I couldnt imagine anyone else but Hawk in there....you must think Stacey King is unbearable if you dont like Hawk. I like Stacey king, gives a lil chuckle to the broadcast. I rather have hawk his passion is great, we could have Len kasper or chip Carey or Joe buck or mccarver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ May 22, 2012 -> 03:56 PM) Yeah it either seems you get the extreme homer or the guy who knows the game as well as anyone but is dull as ****. I'd f***ing love to hear Hawk paired with Rob Dibble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Gary Thorne is pretty good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 22, 2012 -> 04:00 PM) Gary Thorne is pretty good too Ugh...he should stick to hockey... Another one of my favorites is the Rangers color man, Tom Grieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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