Magglio Ordonez to announce retirement

[cabiness42]

And his refusal to do so screwed us out of type A arb compensation.

 

I always thought they should have called his bluff and offered him the arbitration. They should have known he'd never accept.

[Balta1701]

I always thought they should have called his bluff and offered him the arbitration. They should have known he'd never accept.

If his knee was truly F***ed to the point where he might never play again, the Sox would have been on the hook for $15 million in 2005. They woudln't have been able to do any of the moves they made (signing Dye, El Duque, etc.). That's why it was such a big deal for the Sox to have at least the same chance the Tigers got to actually examine his knee, and why it was so frustrating that he/Boras refused.

[Steve9347]

If his knee was truly F***ed to the point where he might never play again, the Sox would have been on the hook for $15 million in 2005. They woudln't have been able to do any of the moves they made (signing Dye, El Duque, etc.). That's why it was such a big deal for the Sox to have at least the same chance the Tigers got to actually examine his knee, and why it was so frustrating that he/Boras refused.

It worked out for both parties. There's no reason to abhor Magglio. He was fun as hell to watch.

[Balta1701]

It worked out for both parties. There's no reason to abhor Magglio. He was fun as hell to watch.

I don't know that I "abhor" him any more (unless he wasn't clean), but I'm still annoyed at how his side handled that situation. Throw in Crede's health issues and how the same management handled that, and there's reason to be particularly annoyed with that agent.

[cabiness42]

If his knee was truly F***ed to the point where he might never play again, the Sox would have been on the hook for $15 million in 2005. They woudln't have been able to do any of the moves they made (signing Dye, El Duque, etc.). That's why it was such a big deal for the Sox to have at least the same chance the Tigers got to actually examine his knee, and why it was so frustrating that he/Boras refused.

 

The arbitration hearing wouldn't have happened until February, and if he wasn't 100% healthy by then he wouldn't have gotten $15 million. Plus, the Sox could have filed a grievance against Maggs/Boras for withholding information.

[Balta1701]

The arbitration hearing wouldn't have happened until February, and if he wasn't 100% healthy by then he wouldn't have gotten $15 million. Plus, the Sox could have filed a grievance against Maggs/Boras for withholding information.

If the Sox had offered arbitration, they'd have been on the hook for at the very minimum $11.2 million, which would be 80% of his previous year's salary. And they'd have had to submit that number in January or beforehand, and then they'd have to go before an arbitrator and argue the pretty much unprecedented case of having to substantially decrease the salary of the guy based on medical reports.

 

Really, it would have been a mess had they even tried that, and they probably would have lost. Whatever the number they submitted, he would have gotten close to $15 million if the Sox offered arbitration and he accepted. No reasonable management team would have offered arb without a chance to examine his condition following an overseas experimental surgery first.