southsider2k5 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (The Gooch @ May 30, 2012 -> 09:46 AM) I think those games are blacked out here on mlb audio... I get them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 30, 2012 -> 09:47 AM) There are no blackouts for audio. Wouldn't it be a muteout anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan Rays vs. Quintana: Pena 3, Upton 8, Joyce 7, Zobrist 9, Scott DH, Rodriguez 4, Sutton 5, Molina 2, Johnson 6. Cobb P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:57 AM) Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan Rays vs. Quintana: Pena 3, Upton 8, Joyce 7, Zobrist 9, Scott DH, Rodriguez 4, Sutton 5, Molina 2, Johnson 6. Cobb P. Anybody know Maddon's thinking using Pena as a leadoff hitter? Is his .343 OBP the best they can do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 30, 2012 -> 10:03 AM) Anybody know Maddon's thinking using Pena as a leadoff hitter? Is his .343 OBP the best they can do? Well Jennings is out, but you'd think he would consider Zobrist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:09 AM) Well Jennings is out, but you'd think he would consider Zobrist... Yeah, Zobrist seems like the much better option. It might have to do with him trying to break up the streak of left handed hitters in the middle of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 That lineup of theirs just isn't real scary. I understand that Maddon is magical or something like that and they're going to play the game the right way....but I just don't see sustained offense coming from that. Maybe a revival from Matsui could change the look of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Cobb throws his change about 50% of the time. This will be an exercise in patience for our boys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:08 AM) The usual. Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Sox lineup: De Aza cf Beckham 2b Dunn dh Konerko 1b Rios rf Pierzynski c Viciedo lf Ramirez ss Hudson 3b Quintana p I don't know where Gonzo gets his lineups from here is the true lineup DA Da cf DA Sizzle Bacon 2b DA Adam Bomb duh DA King Paulie 1b DA tar that alex rios rf DA Zynski c DA yan Tank lf DA Xei Missile ss DA OH! 3b DA Q! p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:08 AM) The usual. Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales Sox lineup: De Aza cf Beckham 2b Dunn dh Konerko 1b Rios rf Pierzynski c Viciedo lf Ramirez ss Hudson 3b Quintana p If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) Cobb throws his change about 50% of the time. This will be an exercise in patience for our boys... His change is also 5 MPH slower than his fastball, which is very odd. Edited May 30, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Hit some corn on the Cobb today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) DA tar that alex rios rf What the heck does that one even mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 30, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) What the heck does that one even mean? I believe it is "the Alex Rios" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Cleveland taking it to Bruce Chen in the 2nd. Must win to stay in 1st! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:36 AM) His change is also 5 MPH slower than his fastball, which is very odd. If by odd you mean bad, you would be correct. He should get slaughtered. I have inserted Dayan Viciedo into the lineup for this one in fantasyland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidepride15 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) If by odd you mean bad, you would be correct. He should get slaughtered. I have inserted Dayan Viciedo into the lineup for this one in fantasyland. That's what I was going to say, I think 10-12 MPH difference is what you look for, with 13 MPH difference being "ideal". I guess we shall see...hoping the Sox get on em early and SWEEEEP!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 5 with minimal damage from Quintana would be spectacular... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) If by odd you mean bad, you would be correct. He should get slaughtered. I have inserted Dayan Viciedo into the lineup for this one in fantasyland. Viciedo wasn't already in your lineup? The 2nd hottest fantasy hitter over the past 2 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:50 AM) Cleveland taking it to Bruce Chen in the 2nd. Must win to stay in 1st! Cy Chen is mortal vs the rest of AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:36 AM) His change is also 5 MPH slower than his fastball, which is very odd. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) If by odd you mean bad, you would be correct. He should get slaughtered. I have inserted Dayan Viciedo into the lineup for this one in fantasyland. 5 is generally not enough differential, but you occasionally see it work. I've seen Buehrle on periodic days only have about that much differential between fast-change and do just fine. Other things like arm action, movement, etc. can make the differential less important QUOTE (southsidepride15 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:58 AM) That's what I was going to say, I think 10-12 MPH difference is what you look for, with 13 MPH difference being "ideal". I guess we shall see...hoping the Sox get on em early and SWEEEEP!! 13mph is generally considered way too much differential. The point of the changeup is that it appears to be a fastball...when the differential is too much, the hitter can recognize that something funny is going on because it looks so different from the fastball. There are probably examples of pitchers that do okay with that much differential, but it isn't the norm. I'll look for it but there is a chart somewhere with MLB batting averages vs changeups by the differential from fastball. The lowest batting average by quite a bit is when the changeup is 9mph off, 8 and 10 being a little less effective but still very effective. Rapidly diminishing returns when the differential is higher or lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) If by odd you mean bad, you would be correct. He should get slaughtered. I have inserted Dayan Viciedo into the lineup for this one in fantasyland. You had better not jinx him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 GO SOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Gordo drilled with an 0-2 pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2012 -> 10:12 AM) Gordo drilled with an 0-2 pitch I'll take it, so long as it didn't hit him in the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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