southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) Plus given our current position, I see KW using any money towards upgrading the major league roster. Good point. He isn't spending $30 million for a few years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Ben Badler @BenBadler Jorge Soler's a good prospect. Been following him since he was in Cuba. But some of the teams reported to be in on him don't even like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Ben Badler @BenBadler From a team reported to be in on Soler: "A lot of raw power…runs from breaking balls…flinches…runs around the OF like an 80-year-old man." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Hope Sox pass on Soler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 10:23 AM) I have not seen the Sox mentioned as being in on Soler. Here's a picture recently posted of Kenny Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Ben Badler @BenBadler From a team reported to be in on Soler: "A lot of raw power…runs from breaking balls…flinches…runs around the OF like an 80-year-old man." That is from a team in on Soler. I wonder if they are saying that to detract other teams, hoping that rumor gets out there and scares certain clubs away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 04:14 PM) That is from a team in on Soler. I wonder if they are saying that to detract other teams, hoping that rumor gets out there and scares certain clubs away? Lord Theo at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) Ben Badler @BenBadler From a team reported to be in on Soler: "A lot of raw power…runs from breaking balls…flinches…runs around the OF like an 80-year-old man." Wasn't there some very similar disparaging things written about Alexei and Dayan before they were signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Bruce Levine is reporting the Sox will be one of the high bidders for Soler http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2012/6/7/30701...arlins-mlb-2012 With the 2012 Major League Draft in their rearview, the Chicago Cubs are setting their sights on free agent outfielder Jorge Soler, reports Patrick Mooney of CSN Chicago. Beyond the Cubs, the New York Yankees, Miami Marlins, Chicago White Sox, Pittsburgh Pirates and Toronto Blue Jays have all been tied to Soler recently. This weekend Soler officially hit the free agent market. With it all but assured that the native Cuban will sign prior to the implementation of the new CBA’s international signing limits on July 2, the Soler sweepstakes are heating up. Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com reported yesterday that Soler held a showcase for several major league teams in South Florida. It’s been confirmed that the Cubs were in attendance to watch Soler, and Levine reports they along with the White Sox, Yankees and Marlins are expected to be the highest bidders for the outfielder. Soler’s agents have reportedly given interested teams a deadline of today to submit sealed bids with their best and final offers. Levine adds that, according to industry sources, it’s believes the bidding for Soler "will go somewhere between $25 and $35 million". While several teams are expected to be in on the Soler bidding, Anthony DiComo of MLB.com reports that the New York Mets still don’t plan on pursuing the 20-year-old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) Bruce Levine is reporting the Sox will be one of the high bidders for Soler http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2012/6/7/30701...arlins-mlb-2012 If that is true at all, and our bid is comparable to the others, you'd have to think with Alexei and Viciedo already here and our history with Contreras and El Duque, we'd have to be the favorite, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 10:10 AM) If that is true at all, and our bid is comparable to the others, you'd have to think with Alexei and Viciedo already here and our history with Contreras and El Duque, we'd have to be the favorite, no? If that is true, yes. I don't buy that it is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 11:10 AM) If that is true at all, and our bid is comparable to the others, you'd have to think with Alexei and Viciedo already here and our history with Contreras and El Duque, we'd have to be the favorite, no? No, because money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 11:10 AM) If that is true at all, and our bid is comparable to the others, you'd have to think with Alexei and Viciedo already here and our history with Contreras and El Duque, we'd have to be the favorite, no? QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 11:18 AM) No, because money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 If our bid is comparable then we should get him. Viciedo and Alexei are huge advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 06:35 PM) Lord Theo at work Theo sucks. I bet Kenny Williams wins another World Series before "the golden boy" on the north side does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 10:18 AM) No, because money. Indeed. The we have Cubans thing is overrated as a draw. The Cubs have actually signed more Cuban prospects than the Sox of late as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Everyone is different. People thought Cespedes would sign in Miami because of Ozzie and that it would be easier for him to play for a Latin manager. Well, that didn't happen. Soler is supposedly years away from being a big leaguer so he wouldn't even be playing with Alexei and Dayan during his trasition to the states - making that argument moot. Usually the guy will go where the money is at, so let's hope the White Sox make a nice offer for this kid. It sounds like he'll be a really nice player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) Everyone is different. People thought Cespedes would sign in Miami because of Ozzie and that it would be easier for him to play for a Latin manager. Well, that didn't happen. Soler is supposedly years away from being a big leaguer so he wouldn't even be playing with Alexei and Dayan during his trasition to the states - making that argument moot. Usually the guy will go where the money is at, so let's hope the White Sox make a nice offer for this kid. It sounds like he'll be a really nice player. If Dayan Viciedo isn't in Chicago in 3-4 years, something went seriously wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...12/2613543.html Jorge Soler May Be Using Haitian Papers By Ben Badler June 8, 2012 Jorge Soler may be a free agent, but the way in which he became one has raised eyebrows around the industry. Soler, a 20-year-old outfielder, left Cuba last year and arrived in the Dominican Republic, where he has been living and working out for teams. However, according to a memo that Major League Baseball sent to teams, Soler is residing in Haiti. Due to federal regulations governing American companies and Cuban citizens, Soler's agents must present either an unblocking license from the U.S. Office Of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) or two permanent residency documents from a new country before Soler can enter into agreement with a team. Soler's agency, Praver Shapiro Sports Management, has told teams that Soler has the two permanent residency documents. Soler's agency has not responded to requests for comment. While age and document fraud are rampant among players in the Dominican Republic, several sources in the international market have said that Haiti is a place perhaps even more notorious for shoddy paperwork and record keeping. As a result, some agents who have worked with Cuban players have said they would never consider trying to have one of their clients gain residency through Haiti. Multiple international sources have indicated that some Cubans may be having a more difficult time gaining residency in the Dominican Republic in recent months. Since MLB has already declared Soler a free agent, it may not matter, though an MLB official contacted would not say whether MLB has already investigated and approved Soler's residency documents. There is a rush for the 20-year-old Soler to sign before July 2, after which he would be subjected to new rules that limit teams to spending $2.9 million on international free agents, with a few exemptions that allow teams to go up to $3.2 million without penalties. However, before July 2, teams can sign Soler or any other international free agent for any amount without it counting against their international signing bonus pools. Soler's agents told teams they must submit their bids for Soler by yesterday. Expectations are that Soler's deal could surpass the $15.6 million package the Rangers gave Cuban center fielder Leonys Martin last year. Soler is not as advanced as Martin, who was a standout in Cuba's top league, Serie Nacional, and had played on the Cuban national team in the 2009 World Baseball Classic when he was 21. While Soler has almost no experience in Serie Nacional, he was one of Cuba's up-and-coming young power hitters as a star on Cuba's national junior circuit and on the junior national team. Haitian papers would be another red flag in the Soler saga. On Feb. 13, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Cubs had an illegal deal in place with Soler prior to him being declared a free agent or receiving an OFAC unblocking license. The Cubs privately denied the report but declined Baseball America's request to go on the record at the time. Cubs general manager Jed Hoyer emphatically disputed the report six weeks later. The Praver Shapiro group is also involved in representing Dominican outfielder Jairo Beras, another player with paperwork questions. Beras had presented himself to MLB and teams as a 16-year-old, then signed with the Rangers for $4.5 million in February as a 17-year-old with a new birth certificate. The deal is currently pending MLB's investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 7, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) Indeed. The we have Cubans thing is overrated as a draw. The Cubs have actually signed more Cuban prospects than the Sox of late as well. LOL, yeah. One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Soler could end up playing a number of positions. He has played CF, though everyone expects him to move to a corner as he continues to fill out. He is alleged to be a five tool player with a higher upside than Cespedes. Viciedo may be the key for the Sox in getting Soler, mainly because of the way the organization handled his development, because whatever Soler signs for now, he will be looking for more six years from now. The Sox have always been mentioned as a contender in the Soler sweepstakes, the issue will be if KW holds money back to make an acquisition at the deadline to help the current roster or if uses it as a long term investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Sources: Next round of bids for Jorge Soler are due this weekend, and right now, the most aggressive teams are Cubs, Yankees, ATL, and LAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 As long as the Cubs dont get him Ill be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2012 -> 02:51 PM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Sources: Next round of bids for Jorge Soler are due this weekend, and right now, the most aggressive teams are Cubs, Yankees, ATL, and LAD. Considering the Sox just drafted Hawkins, I don't see them bidding a ton for Soler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxmaniac! Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 our outfield is pretty deep and we have good prospects in our system. i see no reason to overpay for soler power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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