maggsmaggs Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 02:00 AM) If you're a pro prospect you'd make all-conference in the Chicago area. I can promise that. Yeah. Those All-Conference teams are usually based on numbers and reputation. He obviously didn't have either, which should say something. He must have been drafted as a favor to his dad. The Sox do that all the time with no intent on actually signing the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Kridd @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) This list keeps a running total of where the club stands in regards to they're pool money. Signings Thanks for that. So if they are $300,000 under budget, that means they could offer someone past round 10, $400,000 to sign, and still not go over their allotment, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 02:00 AM) If you're a pro prospect you'd make all-conference in the Chicago area. I can promise that. Haha well...I've seen otherwise even down here in the boonies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 02:00 AM) If you're a pro prospect you'd make all-conference in the Chicago area. I can promise that. Sure, there are some politics involved, but the good players make all-conference. If the kid was a pro prospect, he'd have made it. I absolutely agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kridd Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 06:44 AM) Thanks for that. So if they are $300,000 under budget, that means they could offer someone past round 10, $400,000 to sign, and still not go over their allotment, right? Thats correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Kridd @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 12:20 PM) Thats correct. So next question would be, is there anyone of of the picks that is still unsigned that is worth going that far over slot for? I know Ayala generated some talk with potentially being a much earlier pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/2012/06/1...te-sox/axtz4sb/ Extra innings: The Sox are expected to announce the signing of first-round pick Courtney Hawkins before Monday night’s game. Hawkins agreed to a $2.475 million signing bonus Wednesday. St. John’s pitcher Kyle Hansen, a sixth-round pick, also is expected to sign. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 02:17 PM) So next question would be, is there anyone of of the picks that is still unsigned that is worth going that far over slot for? I know Ayala generated some talk with potentially being a much earlier pick. I know he said 200,000 was absolutely not what he was looking for...I wonder if what he wants is more like $1M or more like the 400-500k we can offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Courtney Hawkins @CHawkins10 NOW I'm OFFICIALLY a CHICAGO WHITE SOX!!This lockerroom is crazy LIVE!!!getting to meet alll the big leaguers pretty legit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Jim Callis @jimcallisBA #WhiteSox signed 6th-rder Kyle Hansen for $250k ($180k pick value). St. John's RHP, low 90s to 96 FB, brother of Craig. #mlbdraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prochisox Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Jim Callis@jimcallisBA #WhiteSox signed 6th-rder Kyle Hansen for $250k ($180k pick value). St. John's RHP, low 90s to 96 FB, brother of Craig. #mlbdraft https://twitter.com/#!/jimcallisBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sox must of signed Thurman Hall. (37th round pick) He's listed in their Bristol affiliate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Not sure how this year's draft class will turn out, but the new system has to be advantageous to the Sox and for us. No more agonizing all summer if we are going to sign Grimes, Morgado, Gardeck etc...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:31 AM) Jim Callis @jimcallisBA #WhiteSox signed 6th-rder Kyle Hansen for $250k ($180k pick value). St. John's RHP, low 90s to 96 FB, brother of Craig. #mlbdraft So that leaves The Sox with a surplus of about $230k to which they could over pay a later pick. The entire top 10 is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 http://www.southsidesox.com/2012/6/19/3096...-spending-trend In the process, the White Sox ended up reversing their trend of decreased spending in a big way. The White Sox had $5,915,100 to spend across their first 10 picks, and they came surprisingly close to using it all, especially when looking at entire budgets from previous seasons: 2008: $4,663,500 2009: $4,178,600 2010: $3,930,200 2011: $2,786,300* 2012: $5,360,000** (*2011's numbers are skewed by the lack of a first-round pick.) (**The official bonuses for Kyle Hansen (sixth round) and Jose Barraza (seventh) haven't been added to Baseball America's Draft Database, but if both players received the recommended pool amount, the Sox will have spent $5,686,300. Barraza was said to have signed for over slot, but when a report uses "200-thousand dollars" instead of "$200,000," it doesn't look all that official.) UCLA pitcher Eric Jaffe (11th round) is the top current holdout, but he can't sign until after the College World Series. BA considers him signable as a draft-eligible sophomore. Out of players who can actually sign, junior college pitcher Derek Thompson (13th round) is the top pick without terms. He says he's "leaning toward signing," although that should be taken with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is there a slotting system in place for picks after the 11th round? Do teams get penalized if they spend over a certain amount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 05:21 PM) Is there a slotting system in place for picks after the 11th round? Do teams get penalized if they spend over a certain amount? After the 10th round there's no slotting, it's all the same. You can sign the pick for up to $100,000 without it counting against your budget. I think after that it has to come from signing previous picks for under slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ayala sounds like an interesting potential prospect. Wouldn't mind if they try to sign him with some of the leftovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 06:34 PM) Ayala sounds like an interesting potential prospect. Wouldn't mind if they try to sign him with some of the leftovers. From an article someone posted earlier it sounded like he wants more than the Sox can give under the rules. He won't sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Baseball America @BaseballAmerica #WhiteSox fans, your team signed all picks from top 10 rounds & $159K under budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 02:28 PM) Baseball America @BaseballAmerica #WhiteSox fans, your team signed all picks from top 10 rounds & $159K under budget That 159K goes to the Dave Wilder Defense Fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 02:28 PM) Baseball America @BaseballAmerica #WhiteSox fans, your team signed all picks from top 10 rounds & $159K under budget New system was a win/win for Sox and fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Wow - a little over two weeks after the draft, and the Sox have signed 28 of their first 32 picks. The only remaining ones are Eric Jaffe (11th, and his post-season just ended recently), Derek Thompson (13th), Jordan Guerrero (15th) and Sammy Ayala (17th, would need serious overslot money). Not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) Wow - a little over two weeks after the draft, and the Sox have signed 28 of their first 32 picks. The only remaining ones are Eric Jaffe (11th, and his post-season just ended recently), Derek Thompson (13th), Jordan Guerrero (15th) and Sammy Ayala (17th, would need serious overslot money). Not bad. Can't teams go over budget without consequences as long as it's not more than 5%? If so, we should have more than $200k to throw at a guy like Ayala right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 04:55 PM) Can't teams go over budget without consequences as long as it's not more than 5%? If so, we should have more than $200k to throw at a guy like Ayala right? Well, we saved money from our other signings, so we can freely use that money for Ayala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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