southsider2k5 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:07 PM) His pitch count wasn't high, it's just that Ventura felt he was probably very fortunate to give up 10 hits and only a single run, and putting Jones in there when Greene was 2/2 against him wasn't a bad idea, it worked. In the future, you can trust him more, perhaps...but you can't blame Robin for the quick hook in a game we really need. Early on, the Sox have really protected him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 07:04 PM) He's so damned streaky...he's Quentin all over again. Except he's still incredibly young and developing. With his bat speed, I wouldn't be surprised if he develops into a dominant offensive player in the future (and a relatively consistent one). The biggest thing to ensuring that happens is pitch recognition/approach and I expect that to improve with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Cubs giveth and taketh away. Two games in a row with late rallies for the Tiggers' offense. We do NOT want them getting that belief back, but it was probably inevitable. The Cubs just suck. Edited June 13, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Nice job MT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Good job by Thornton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:14 PM) Cubs giveth and taketh away. So basically what your saying is the Cubs suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:12 PM) Except he's still incredibly young and developing. With his bat speed, I wouldn't be surprised if he develops into a dominant offensive player in the future (and a relatively consistent one). The biggest thing to ensuring that happens is pitch recognition/approach and I expect that to improve with experience. Yeah, except he looks the same every year. Look at his f***ing walk rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Good news is the Cards bullpen stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Get him home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Nice double to start the inning by De Aza. Lets get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 nice start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:12 PM) Except he's still incredibly young and developing. With his bat speed, I wouldn't be surprised if he develops into a dominant offensive player in the future (and a relatively consistent one). The biggest thing to ensuring that happens is pitch recognition/approach and I expect that to improve with experience. I think he will make too many outs to be a dominant offensive player. I don't think he'll be a #3 hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 07:17 PM) Yeah, except he looks the same every year. Look at his f***ing walk rate I might be mistaken, but I thought his walk rate had improved each year in the minors. So he's shown development from that perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:18 PM) I think he will make too many outs to be a dominant offensive player. I don't think he'll be a #3 hitter. Definitely not worth the wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:18 PM) I think he will make too many outs to be a dominant offensive player. I don't think he'll be a #3 hitter. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) I think he will make too many outs to be a dominant offensive player. I don't think he'll be a #3 hitter. Great. His power ought to put him in the cleanup spot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Big RBI out of Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Nicely done everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:18 PM) I might be mistaken, but I thought his walk rate had improved each year in the minors. So he's shown development from that perspective. No, you're right...we heard ALL about the improved plate discipline in the minors. It hasn't translated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ha, Hawk glad we didn't bunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) Great. His power ought to put him in the cleanup spot anyway. Not when he can't hit a good fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 07:19 PM) No, you're right...we heard ALL about the improved plate discipline in the minors. It hasn't translated. He's 2.5 months into being an every day big leaguer and has put up strong power numbers and hit for a pretty solid average. How in the heck are you guys basing your entire opinions on what he won't do based upon 2 full months of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 BTW, as soon as this at bat is over, Dunn better be out in favor of Danks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 07:21 PM) Not when he can't hit a good fastball. With his bat speed, I'd be stunned if he doesn't ultimately end up being fully capable of hitting fastballs. This isn't a guy with the Slayer's batspeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 09:21 PM) He's 2.5 months into being an every day big leaguer and has put up strong power numbers and hit for a pretty solid average. How in the heck are you guys basing your entire opinions on what he won't do based upon 2 full months of baseball. Because he displayed this exact same thing two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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