iamshack Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 10:02 PM) I have seen where Chris Johnson from Houston could be had. He's been a good, solid but by no means any kind of star at 3B and would be an upgrade over what we have. I can't see him having a super high price tage except for the fact that every GM has to know the Sox are desperate for 3B and will try to make them overpay. Thing is, at least from my perspective, I think we want to lean towards the defensive side of things...I really don't think we need a big bat there, just someone who isn't a black hole at the plate and makes all the plays. Edited June 18, 2012 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 With Morel being out until at least the ASB, it sure seems like it's Hudson or bust for the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 10:02 PM) I have seen where Chris Johnson from Houston could be had. He's been a good, solid but by no means any kind of star at 3B and would be an upgrade over what we have. I can't see him having a super high price tage except for the fact that every GM has to know the Sox are desperate for 3B and will try to make them overpay. Johnson's not that good of a hitter. He sports a .720 OPS right now and his defense is pretty bad at 3B. If you get somebody, you'd like to aim higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) Thing is, at least from my perspective, I think we want to lean towards the defensive side of things...I really don't think we need a bit bat there, just someone who isn't a black hole at the plate and makes all the plays. That would be Morel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 F*** it, Brett Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 11:16 PM) That would be Morel. Notice where I said I don't want a black hole offensively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) How about matt davidson of arizona? He is the #9 third base prospect. Is 21 I don't know if he is ready our not, but gives us a future guy for there. Might be able to help right away. They have a young guy on the major roster playing right now that the manager is high on. Josh bell. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/ Edited June 18, 2012 by mataipaepae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 11:22 PM) Notice where I said I don't want a black hole offensively? S***, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 They need to deal for Matt Dominguez. He's 23, in AAA, and a former 1st round pick that is blocked by Hanley. He's elite defensively and has potential to hit at least at a servicable level in the bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) They need to deal for Matt Dominguez. He's 23, in AAA, and a former 1st round pick that is blocked by Hanley. He's elite defensively and has potential to hit at least at a servicable level in the bigs. Who would we have to trade to get him? And what are the odds that he could actually hit .225 or above and be serviceable offensively right off the bat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 01:56 AM) They need to deal for Matt Dominguez. He's 23, in AAA, and a former 1st round pick that is blocked by Hanley. He's elite defensively and has potential to hit at least at a servicable level in the bigs. So he's Brent Morel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 12:54 AM) Is there such a person out there? Brent Morel when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 09:44 AM) No you are right. The Sox are now limited to Youkilis, A-Rod, Beltre, and Josh Hamilton(if he is over his intestinal virus and if they can convert him to third base, despite being lefthanded) So far I havent heard any mention of Bill Mueller, Gary Gaetti, or Mike Lowell, but they are probably all in the running. But hey, we havent heard any mention of Mike Schmidt yet! Did he mention players that are coming back with certainty? Or did he mention that he preferred these players to be traded because of his own percieved value of these players? Is missing obscure 80's Sox player reference... Is Vance Law available? Or maybe Kenny Williams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) No thanks to Chone if Sox are being forced to pay anything but the minimum for him. Unless we could off-load a bad contract on them (Hey meet Alex Rios!) there is no way this gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 17, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) Headley probably too expensive in terms of asking price, Nelson not much of an upgrade (concern about converting from Coors, NL to AL), Stewart's been terrible for the Cubs. Someone mentioned Inge, but he wouldn't have gotten to us on waivers, and there's no way we were going to pick up his salary. He got through waivers. The A's signed him after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) He got through waivers. The A's signed him after that. Of course he did, no team was going to pick him up on waivers and take on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 08:07 AM) Unless we could off-load a bad contract on them (Hey meet Alex Rios!) there is no way this gets done. Woah, woah...what? You still want to deal Rios? WTF is the point of making the move if we're going to subtract one of our best players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 06:46 AM) So he's Brent Morel. I'm not convinced that Brent is elite defensively. When he was healthy I felt like it was something more along the lines of "above average" If we're going to trade for someone who is a good glove maybe no bat third baseman, I want his defense to be better than Morel's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) Woah, woah...what? You still want to deal Rios? WTF is the point of making the move if we're going to subtract one of our best players? Personally I am not convinced Alex is going to be a $40 million player the next three years. I know you can't trade him in this situation, but still I would love to see him dealt. The reality is the only way we can pick up a big contract is by dealing a big contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 08:37 AM) Of course he did, no team was going to pick him up on waivers and take on his contract. Yet someone thought exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) In a month or so, no one will ever mention KW didn't bring in Brandon Inge ever again. He did get hot, but reality is setting in. BTW, I can't believe how much I have actually defended KW this season. I still think he should be the ex-GM. Edited June 18, 2012 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 08:48 AM) Personally I am not convinced Alex is going to be a $40 million player the next three years. I know you can't trade him in this situation, but still I would love to see him dealt. The reality is the only way we can pick up a big contract is by dealing a big contract. This is true, but I don't see the reasoning behind dealing Rios. The Sox are in the thick of the race, and Rios has had a fair amount to do with it. If the Sox were out of it and Rios was playing the way he is, sure deal him. But then the Sox wouldn't be looking for 3B help in that scenario. So, the reality is that the chances of the Sox grabbing a big name 3B are slim to none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 09:55 AM) This is true, but I don't see the reasoning behind dealing Rios. The Sox are in the thick of the race, and Rios has had a fair amount to do with it. If the Sox were out of it and Rios was playing the way he is, sure deal him. But then the Sox wouldn't be looking for 3B help in that scenario. So, the reality is that the chances of the Sox grabbing a big name 3B are slim to none. Basically the Q on dealing Rios is risk/reward. This guy is a high risk of being a complete waste again, either in the 2nd half this year or next year, but the Sox won't win the division this year if they don't have him performing adequately, since D2 is not going to fill in his production. If they're going to decide to be serious about winning this year, then you have to bite the bullet and hold on to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) Basically the Q on dealing Rios is risk/reward. This guy is a high risk of being a complete waste again, either in the 2nd half this year or next year, but the Sox won't win the division this year if they don't have him performing adequately, since D2 is not going to fill in his production. If they're going to decide to be serious about winning this year, then you have to bite the bullet and hold on to him. Exactly my thoughts. Ridding the Sox of the financial burden and the potential for him sucking again sounds nice, but unless KW finds some unbeatable deal that sends him away and brings back someone awesome that fits the needs of the team, you have to hope that the Rios of today is the Rios of the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 08:55 AM) This is true, but I don't see the reasoning behind dealing Rios. The Sox are in the thick of the race, and Rios has had a fair amount to do with it. If the Sox were out of it and Rios was playing the way he is, sure deal him. But then the Sox wouldn't be looking for 3B help in that scenario. So, the reality is that the chances of the Sox grabbing a big name 3B are slim to none. Like I said I know you can't trade him now. Though it could get interesting if the Sox spend the next month and a half putzing around .500, and someone like Detroit or Cleveland gets hot and opens up a 5+ game lead. Do you then look to deal Peavy and Rios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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