Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 11:03 PM) We don't disagree much, but I disagree with you here. Q is far from a free pass at this point just because they are in the final. Knowing there was a good chance Hossa may not play, and not even having Smith take the warm up (while Mayers did) is completely inexcusable. That's just awful. Kane comes out of his slump against the Kings while reunited with Toews. What happens? Splits them up against Boston (something you even said would be stupid when the lines were introduced in practice before game 1). And neither guy has played too well. Haven't scored a goal in what, 6 periods worth? Here's an idea...88+19. Hossa out last night, puts Toews with Kruger and Frolik? WTF was that? Power play is garbage. Yes it's Kompon's job, in theory, but Q's the head coach, and they are 0 for their last 84. Plays Bollig, his f***up leads to a GWG. ***** I'm not blaming everything on him, but there's plenty to take issue with here. This all sucks, and is all garbage that you or I have already pointed out ad nauseum, but it also does not = the hot seat. EDIT: At least not in my eyes. We'll see how I feel after Game 4 tonight. If only I can find NBCSN. Edited June 19, 2013 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 08:20 AM) This all sucks, and is all garbage that you or I have already pointed out ad nauseum, but it also does not = the hot seat. EDIT: At least not in my eyes. We'll see how I feel after Game 4 tonight. If only I can find NBCSN. Tonight's game and the rest of the series is on NBC and not the cable channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Mr. Showtime @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 08:39 AM) Tonight's game and the rest of the series is on NBC and not the cable channel. Oh thank Christ. It was so impossible to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 08:20 AM) This all sucks, and is all garbage that you or I have already pointed out ad nauseum, but it also does not = the hot seat. EDIT: At least not in my eyes. We'll see how I feel after Game 4 tonight. If only I can find NBCSN. FWIW, I agree. These are all valid criticisms (and not, imo mere second-guessings, though they may seem like it down 2-1), particularly the power play, given Q's decisions to bounce responsiblity for it from Kitchen to Haviland to Kitchen to Kompon in the last two years alone. Furthermore, as I recall, when he brought Kompon over from LA, he had been the subject of criticism about his power play there, and there were not many tears shed in LA when he left. But I can't see that or any other issues buying Q the hot seat after a President's Trophy and a trip to the Finals. Then again, I was shocked they gave Tallon the shoe when they did, even though to me, his cap management sins were more egregious than Q's coaching ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I think someone can be called to the carpet without being on the hot seat. If you want reasons the Hawks are trailing in this series, Q is as much to blame as anyone, IMO. It doesn't mean he's on a proverbial hot seat. *********** Hossa not on the ice for morning skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 10:35 AM) I think someone can be called to the carpet without being on the hot seat. If you want reasons the Hawks are trailing in this series, Q is as much to blame as anyone, IMO. It doesn't mean he's on a proverbial hot seat. *********** Hossa not on the ice for morning skate. Mayers is skating in his place with Handzus & Sharp. That makes me think that Hossa will play tonight, because no way Mayers plays on that line. Unless Q is trying to pull a fast one on Julien again, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) Mayers is skating in his place with Handzus & Sharp. That makes me think that Hossa will play tonight, because no way Mayers plays on that line. Unless Q is trying to pull a fast one on Julien again, ha. Agreed, though I'd feel better about the whole thing if he took the morning skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 10:51 AM) Agreed, though I'd feel better about the whole thing if he took the morning skate. Hossa will play. He will not be 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Hossa will have 3 points tonight. 1 goal and 2 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 12:11 PM) Hossa will have 3 points tonight. 1 goal and 2 assists. I will masturbate if this comes to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't know much about hockey but the Hawks seem very erratic with passing and such. Watching the Bruins move the puck around and how good they are defensively doesn't seem to bode well for the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) I will masturbate if this comes to fruition. Like you don't already do that 7 times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 12:22 PM) Like you don't already do that 7 times a day. I will reserve the semen reservoir for such a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 So we head back to what was dominating the LA Kings and should have never changed. In the shootaround. Bickell - Toews - Kane Sharp - Handzus - Mayers Hossa Saad - Shaw - Stalberg Kruger - Bolland - Frolik Those top 3 lines are just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 02:01 PM) So we head back to what was dominating the LA Kings and should have never changed. In the shootaround. Bickell - Toews - Kane Sharp - Handzus - Mayers Hossa Saad - Shaw - Stalberg Kruger - Bolland - Frolik Those top 3 lines are just ridiculous. Hey there's a thought like I said yesterday, 19+88. Who knows if it works, but you MUST play them together. As has been talked about the past few days, we need more than just shots on Rask. They need to get traffic, they need to get shots that aren't just from the half-wall. I'd say get a power play goal too, but now I'm just being greedy. And stupid. But seriously, that would be great. 3-1 Hawks with an EN goal tonight? Please? Lose tonight and it's over. Save me the whole "they came back from 3-1 against Detroit, they can do it again!" crap. Boston isn't Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I want to believe in them so badly and put down some decent scratch with these odds, but I'm just on the fence a little without really knowing how beat up Hossa is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Can you guys really see the Hawks drop 3 straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 02:01 PM) So we head back to what was dominating the LA Kings and should have never changed. In the shootaround. Bickell - Toews - Kane Sharp - Handzus - Mayers Hossa Saad - Shaw - Stalberg Kruger - Bolland - Frolik Those top 3 lines are just ridiculous. This is perfect, pretty much how I would have lined them up. To me, Bickell isn't a real first-liner but pairs up with those two really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) Can you guys really see the Hawks drop 3 straight? Tonight's game doesn't know what happened the past 2 games. Irrelevant. So can I see the Hawks losing one game tonight? Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) Tonight's game doesn't know what happened the past 2 games. Irrelevant. So can I see the Hawks losing one game tonight? Of course. It's funny how our brains are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) Tonight's game doesn't know what happened the past 2 games. Irrelevant. So can I see the Hawks losing one game tonight? Of course. Yep. First rule of statistics Or second. One of the rules!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) It's funny how our brains are the same. You're about due for a prediction-gone-right post ala the Wings series. Hurry the f*** up, we only have 3 hours left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I see it as relevant because the more the teams get acquainted with each other the more adjustments that will be made. It's like a giant chess game. It's the Stanley Cup! I don't know much about hockey but still, good teams make the necessary adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 03:58 PM) This is perfect, pretty much how I would have lined them up. To me, Bickell isn't a real first-liner but pairs up with those two really well. And Handzus is really a 4th liner, but hey its what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) Can you guys really see the Hawks drop 3 straight? I saw it happen on May 18, 20 & 23 by a combined score of 9-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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