hammerhead johnson Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 05:14 AM) He's in AA My bad. I saw on his fangraphs page that he made a AAA start, so I assumed that he was recently promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:27 PM) Right now, you'd have to say the Tigers are still the favorites. If they can keep Fister healthy and get Smyly back from the blister, and get Avila back 100%, they're going to be a tough out...no matter how bad Valverde's been pitching. However, if Peavy keeps pitching like this and the team starts to fall out of, you see what you can get for him and use the 2nd half to audition virtually everyone in AA/AAA for next season. That also gives you a better idea of what to do with Gavin Floyd. I do? They are awful. The worst defense I've seen in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 On the bright side, it could be looked at as a mid-season acquisition if the team remains in contention by the time he returns. :shrugs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:27 PM) Right now, you'd have to say the Tigers are still the favorites. If they can keep Fister healthy and get Smyly back from the blister, and get Avila back 100%, they're going to be a tough out...no matter how bad Valverde's been pitching. However, if Peavy keeps pitching like this and the team starts to fall out of, you see what you can get for him and use the 2nd half to audition virtually everyone in AA/AAA for next season. That also gives you a better idea of what to do with Gavin Floyd. i dont have to say the Tigers are the favorites. They arent playing well at all. No one is right now in the Al Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 05:30 AM) On the bright side, it could be looked at as a mid-season acquisition if the team remains in contention by the time he returns. :shrugs: This news actually made me feel much better about Danks and his future if it was causing him issues all year. The thought of having a healthy, effective Danks to go along with Sale and Quintana as 3 of our 5 starters next year is a much better scenario than what could have been projected for the future a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:05 PM) You wonder if this was a factor all season in his decreased velocity Not a doubt in my mind. He is way better than what he's pitched this year. I'm biased though cause I'm a big Danks fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 05:32 AM) i dont have to say the Tigers are the favorites. They arent playing well at all. No one is right now in the Al Central. 7-3 since Austin Jackson returned, but it's been against some crappy teams. They have a 10 game road trip coming up at Pit, Texas and Tampa. Hopefully they don't win more than 4 on that trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The summary here is that it sounds bad, isn't as bad as it sounds, but none of us know how bad it is I think he'll be fine, maybe it'll be a blessing in disguise as our starters will likely make it more clear which belong and which don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:37 PM) 7-3 since Austin Jackson returned, but it's been against some crappy teams. They have a 10 game road trip coming up at Pit, Texas and Tampa. Hopefully they don't win more than 4 on that trip. The one time Ill actually root for the Rangers to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 03:55 AM) He might be done for the season. I would agree. With this team still looking .500 at best cause of our inability to win at home, might as well hold him out to be safe. I do believe he's done for the year. Sounds scary to put him back out there for a long period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 04:43 AM) I would agree. With this team still looking .500 at best cause of our inability to win at home, might as well hold him out to be safe. I do believe he's done for the year. Sounds scary to put him back out there for a long period of time. You worry far too much about home/road record. The Royals are 11-20 at home this year, yet you seem very worried they're going to finish better than the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 This is what I feared. Floyd better get his s*** together fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) I would agree. With this team still looking .500 at best cause of our inability to win at home, might as well hold him out to be safe. I do believe he's done for the year. Sounds scary to put him back out there for a long period of time. They're not going to pay a pitcher that kind of money and sit him in the middle of a pennant race if he's healthy and there's no danger of further damage. That said, they're obviously going to be very conservative. Everyone remembers the scenario with Peavy in 2009, which led to his changing his motion/delivery and the lat tear. As Danks said, he discovered he was also changing his mechanics to lessen the pain, and that's where you always get into trouble. HOPEFULLY, no surgery will be needed and he will be 100% in August and September. As mentioned, we just have to look at it like we're acquiring a 2/3 starter at the trade deadline, if we can stay within 3-4-5 games of first place by the end of July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:37 PM) 7-3 since Austin Jackson returned, but it's been against some crappy teams. They have a 10 game road trip coming up at Pit, Texas and Tampa. Hopefully they don't win more than 4 on that trip. I watch a ton of Tigers baseball. They are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Where is ptac to tell us what that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) http://radiology.rsna.org/content/213/3/709.full So it's a slight tear of the subscapularis tendon in his left shoulder....Grade 1 One of the articles on-line says "Danks has a torn tendon" and that sounds a LOT worse than it apparently is. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/13272636-57...g-shoulder.html The out indefinitely part isn't encouraging, though. Edited June 19, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Well, this is not great news, but it doesn't change things from how they've been. Qunitana has filled that spot just fine. Now Ventura needs to let the kid pitch. I'm more worried about Humber and Floyd. Both have looked pretty bad of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Bad news for this season, but good news for the rest of his contract. If this is what was bothering him all season, and maybe some of last season, hopefully it can heal up & 2008-2010 Danks can come back for the next 4 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:46 PM) You worry far too much about home/road record. The Royals are 11-20 at home this year, yet you seem very worried they're going to finish better than the White Sox. Cleveland has the best home record in the AL Central. 18-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2012 -> 11:34 PM) This news actually made me feel much better about Danks and his future if it was causing him issues all year. The thought of having a healthy, effective Danks to go along with Sale and Quintana as 3 of our 5 starters next year is a much better scenario than what could have been projected for the future a few months ago. Yep. Knowing there was an issue, versus his velocity just being down makes me feel better about Danks future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Floyd really needs to wake up now! Ugh! And if Humber struggles one more time, send him to the pen and rock the Axelrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 03:11 AM) http://radiology.rsna.org/content/213/3/709.full So it's a slight tear of the subscapularis tendon in his left shoulder....Grade 1 One of the articles on-line says "Danks has a torn tendon" and that sounds a LOT worse than it apparently is. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/13272636-57...g-shoulder.html The out indefinitely part isn't encouraging, though. A baseball training source said this kind of injury can sideline a pitcher from 3-to-6 weeks. Trib key line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:27 AM) Right now, you'd have to say the Tigers are still the favorites. If they can keep Fister healthy and get Smyly back from the blister, and get Avila back 100%, they're going to be a tough out...no matter how bad Valverde's been pitching. However, if Peavy keeps pitching like this and the team starts to fall out of, you see what you can get for him and use the 2nd half to audition virtually everyone in AA/AAA for next season. That also gives you a better idea of what to do with Gavin Floyd. What you've basically got to assume to say the Tigers are the favorites is that the Tigers will stop being hit by injuries and the other teams will continue to be hit by injuries. Which you do here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 07:27 AM) Yep. Knowing there was an issue, versus his velocity just being down makes me feel better about Danks future. Absolutely, I still had a sneaking fear that it was a torn labrum which would have likely ended his career (hello Michael Pineda) despite ptatc calming me down. This sounds like it may have healed up by now if we knew about it from the get go and didn't have him taking such an active rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 09:11 PM) What you've basically got to assume to say the Tigers are the favorites is that the Tigers will stop being hit by injuries and the other teams will continue to be hit by injuries. Which you do here. I'm not going to guarantee the Royals over the White Sox, but do you really believe with Danks out for probably two months that the White Sox should be favored over a Tigers team that just got back Fister and Austin Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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