Chicago White Sox Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 09:17 AM) Yeah, I think Castro will be one of the next guys we see. Leesman...I don't know. I wonder how many lefties we're willing to have in the rotation? lol. Castro (supposedly) has a very high ceiling though so I hope he really produces in AAA. I think Leesman ultimately ends up in the bullpen. Yet another reason why I don't get how Ohman is still on this roster. If I needed a lefty in the pen, I'd easily take Leesman or Septimo over Ohman right now. Plus there are another three or four right-handed relievers at AAA I'd prefer. Heath is having a hell of a season and Omogrosso sounds like he's been dominating the past couple months. I'd prefer taking the best overall reliever than keep the LOOGY that continues to face too many right-handed batters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I'd prefer taking the best overall reliever than keep the LOOGY that continues to face too many right-handed batters. It's not Ohman's fault he faces too many right-handed batters. It's not his job to signal to the bullpen when a righty comes up. This is one of Ozzie's faults that seems to have carried over to Robin. Ohman has a 0.77 WHIP vs. lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 22, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) It's not Ohman's fault he faces too many right-handed batters. It's not his job to signal to the bullpen when a righty comes up. This is one of Ozzie's faults that seems to have carried over to Robin. Ohman has a 0.77 WHIP vs. lefties. The point is that he sucks at his current role and that role isn't changing. Maybe our pitching staff just isn't deep enough to carry a LOOGY and only use him in the appropriate situations. If that's the case, get someone else up here who can actually help our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Maybe our pitching staff just isn't deep enough to carry a LOOGY and only use him in the appropriate situations. I don't believe that, but if that's actually true, then bringing up a lefty to replace him doesn't solve that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Goshin Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I'm honestly not too worried about our rotation right now. QUintana, Peavy, and Sale have been awesome. Floyd needs to pick it back up yes, but we know he's capable. I have faith in Axelrod as well to get the job done. I have some more thoughts on the rotation here: http://midwaymadness.com/2012/06/humber-to...on-two-rookies/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Quick update from MGon on JDanks (Basically says he will continue rehab with no definite return date). PTATC, can you comment on this? Link: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1444642.story Article: NEW YORK -- Chicago White Sox left-hander John Danks left the team Sunday to return to Chicago for tests on his left shoulder. Danks, who hasn't pitched since June 14 in a minor league rehabilitation assignment for Triple-A Charlotte, underwent a diagnostic ultrasound on his shoulder. Danks didn't not undergo an MRI since he isn't close yet to resuming his rehab assignment. The Sox stressed that Danks, 27, should be able to resume his rehab Tuesday. Danks hasn't pitched in a major league game since May 19 against the Cubs at Wrigley Field and there has been no projected date for his return. "I think we’re fortunate to be able to think that way with what Q (Jose Quintana) has done," manager Robin Ventura said. "We want to get him healthy first, and it keeps lingering and lingering, and you can’t look at him as we’re counting on him on this date. Every time we’ve done that, it’s been pushed back. We just want to get him healthy and Q just stays in that spot.” Reliever Jesse Crain, who has tightness in the back of his right shoulder, had yet to throw Sunday, and a stint on the DL still seems possible. “I think it’s more he’s gotten a pretty good prognosis of what it is," Ventura said. "It’s giving him some time (to rest), and hopefully that will do the trick. I don’t foresee a DL stint for him.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 12:21 PM) Quick update from MGon on JDanks (Basically says he will continue rehab with no definite return date). PTATC, can you comment on this? Link: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1444642.story Article: NEW YORK -- Chicago White Sox left-hander John Danks left the team Sunday to return to Chicago for tests on his left shoulder. Danks, who hasn't pitched since June 14 in a minor league rehabilitation assignment for Triple-A Charlotte, underwent a diagnostic ultrasound on his shoulder. Danks didn't not undergo an MRI since he isn't close yet to resuming his rehab assignment. The Sox stressed that Danks, 27, should be able to resume his rehab Tuesday. Danks hasn't pitched in a major league game since May 19 against the Cubs at Wrigley Field and there has been no projected date for his return. "I think we’re fortunate to be able to think that way with what Q (Jose Quintana) has done," manager Robin Ventura said. "We want to get him healthy first, and it keeps lingering and lingering, and you can’t look at him as we’re counting on him on this date. Every time we’ve done that, it’s been pushed back. We just want to get him healthy and Q just stays in that spot.” Reliever Jesse Crain, who has tightness in the back of his right shoulder, had yet to throw Sunday, and a stint on the DL still seems possible. “I think it’s more he’s gotten a pretty good prognosis of what it is," Ventura said. "It’s giving him some time (to rest), and hopefully that will do the trick. I don’t foresee a DL stint for him.” This is an interesting development. Diagnostic ultrasounds can be used for tendon imaging but are typically used for muscle belly imaging. My guess is that he is still having some discomfort and they are trying other things to determine the cause. The good news is that if they are looking at the active muscle tissue, they do not think it is a passive stability structure like the capsule or labrum. These need surgery to fix. If they think he is ready to begin on Tuesday then they must be pretty sure it's just muscular which just requires rest then strengthening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Darnit, P, you always beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Glad to hear Danks might be close, though it makes me nervous that he is still having discomfort. I hope they aren't missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2012 -> 07:39 AM) Glad to hear Danks might be close, though it makes me nervous that he is still having discomfort. I hope they aren't missing something. Don't want the 75 million dollar 2-pitch pitcher coming back less than 100%. He needs to be healthy for the 2 pitches to work effectively, specifically spotting the 92mph fastball on the outer half, never daring to throw it inside to good hitters or really any hitters for that matter.. I need him healthy enough to walk 3-6 batters per game consistently too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidepride15 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 2, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) Don't want the 75 million dollar 2-pitch pitcher coming back less than 100%. He needs to be healthy for the 2 pitches to work effectively, specifically spotting the 92mph fastball on the outer half, never daring to throw it inside to good hitters or really any hitters for that matter.. I need him healthy enough to walk 3-6 batters per game consistently too. JD's biggest fan??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 QUOTE (Son Goshin @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 08:38 AM) I'm honestly not too worried about our rotation right now. QUintana, Peavy, and Sale have been awesome. Floyd needs to pick it back up yes, but we know he's capable. I have faith in Axelrod as well to get the job done. I have some more thoughts on the rotation here: http://midwaymadness.com/2012/06/humber-to...on-two-rookies/ This may be the most random post I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 2, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) Don't want the 75 million dollar 2-pitch pitcher coming back less than 100%. He needs to be healthy for the 2 pitches to work effectively, specifically spotting the 92mph fastball on the outer half, never daring to throw it inside to good hitters or really any hitters for that matter.. I need him healthy enough to walk 3-6 batters per game consistently too. $65 million, but what another $10 million when it's just pocket change or walking around money for the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Danks had a cortisone shot yesterday. Still no word on a possible return or prognosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:07 PM) Danks had a cortisone shot yesterday. Still no word on a possible return or prognosis. This proves that he is still having discomfort and they aren't sure where it's coming from. Cortisone injections are done in bursa and other passive tissues. They are not used for tendons and muscles. They are looking at something other than the subscapularis tendon that was reported earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) This proves that he is still having discomfort and they aren't sure where it's coming from. Cortisone injections are done in bursa and other passive tissues. They are not used for tendons and muscles. They are looking at something other than the subscapularis tendon that was reported earlier. This is less than encouraging, but info much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So I have pretty much resigned to the fact that I wont be seeing Danks anymore this season. If he comes back, fine, but this "strain" seems to be far more than just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 "John is not feeling so hot, his shoulder is not feeling so good, we've made minimal progress with it and from my standpoint -- I don’t mean this fully, I love John -- he’s not on my radar right now," Cooper told "The Mully and Hanley Show" on WSCR-AM 670. "I mean, we've got 12 other guys that force your attention and until John gets close and John gets going, he’s kind of out of my mind and I don’t mean that in a bad way." Danks last pitched June 14 in a minor league rehabilitation assignment for Triple-A Charlotte, and Cooper said any potential comeback is at least two or three weeks away. "We would love to have John back, but that doesn’t look like that’s happening in the next two-to-three weeks at least, so we got our hands full and we got a job ahead of us with what we've got going on," Cooper said. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) Link Ugh. Of course, because it is the year after he signed a five year deal and we are in a pennant race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 yup, thats what i thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Wish this would of happened before extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 05:55 PM) Ugh. Of course, because it is the year after he signed a five year deal and we are in a pennant race. Yep, at this point, I don't think Danks can be counted on for 2012. Like you mentioned, really bad luck for the Sox as not many people saw this injury-plagued season coming. I just hope he can be ready for 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 We might need another pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 12:57 PM) We need another pitcher. yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) We might need another pitcher. Let's just hope Humber returns and can give us a 4.75 ERA type rest of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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