chisoxfan09 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) This MLB report says he is more polished than Soler but a bit below Cespedes in talent and experience. He could be like a High A or AA prospect and easily crack our top 10, maybe even top 5. Need to get a deal done before the 2nd of July for whoever lands him. Jaime Torres represents him and Torres is our friend, thus it makes this interesting. Link: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...lb&c_id=mlb Article: The latest Cuban prospect expected to hit the market just might be the most coveted young outfielder to leave the island in the last 12 months. Outfielder Yasel Puig, 21, has defected from Cuba and is in the process of establishing residency in Mexico, the first step to becoming eligible for free agency, his agent Jaime Torres said. A showcase for Major League scouts is tentatively scheduled for later this week in Mexico City. "As of Monday morning, I submitted information to Major League Baseball and the Players Association that he has taken up residency in Mexico and will shortly establish legal permanent residency in Mexico," Torres said. "We should have documentation of his legal permanent residency in Mexico soon and as soon as I have that, I will submit it to Major League Baseball and I hope and expect that he will be declared a free agent immediately." The 6-foot-3, 210-pound Puig is a known commodity in international circles. He played two seasons for Cienfuegos in the island's top league, Cuban National Series (Serie Nacional), and was a member of the country's national team that finished second in the 2011 World Port Tournament in The Netherlands. "There has not been a player as proven and as young to come to the States from Cuba," Torres said. "It's one thing to come to the United States at 19 or 20 years old with a few at-bats or some experience on a national level but this guy has years of national experience under his belt." Puig is not as seasoned as fellow Cuban Yoenis Cespedes, a familiar member of Cuba's National team who signed a four-year, $36 million deal with the A's in February, but he has more experience on the country's highest level than outfielder Jorge Soler, who signed a nine-year, $30 million deal with the Cubs last week. Soler made a name for himself playing for Cuba's Junior National team and in the country's Junior circuit but saw limited action for Havana in Serie Nacional. "You have heard the other names because Puig was in Cuba and Soler and Cespedes were out of the country, it's that simple," Torres said. "Before Soler got to the Dominican Republic, very few people knew who he was outside of his Junior experience. Puig played in the Serie Nacional and was projected to be the right fielder for the national team for the upcoming years. Scouts know who Puig is." Puig hit .276 with five home runs during his first campaign with Cienfuegos in 2008-09 and had a breakout year the next season, hitting .330 with 17 home runs and 78 RBI. He did not play for Cienfuegos during the 2011-12 seasons because he was being disciplined, Torres said. "He's been planning to leave Cuba for more than a year and I am told he has been caught trying to leave Cuba several times," Torres said. "When he left The Netherlands last year, they suspected he was going to defect and he was suspended. He was reinstated to the reserve team for Cienfuegos, basically Triple-A, and then he was caught trying to leave the country again and suspended from the reserve team again." Puig's value, in addition to his status, is to be determined. Once he gains residency in Mexico, Major League Baseball can declare him a free agent, but he still must be legally cleared by the U.S. Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control before he can sign a contract. He must also sign with a Major League club before July 2, or he will be subject to new CBA guidelines that will limit spending on international prospects to $2.9 million per team without penalty. Soler was declared a free agent June 2 and signed with Chicago nine days later. Cespedes signed with Oakland 19 days after he was declared a free agent. "We should all be on the same page by July 2nd in order to have the clubs evaluate him and sign a contract before the new rule kicks in," Torres said. "Under the CBA, if the player receives documentation that he has established residency in a third country he will be declared a free agent immediately just like Cespedes. Cespedes supposedly established residency and the next day he was declared a free agent. I expect the same thing to happen with Yasel Puig." It's already been a busy year for Cuban prospects. In addition to the signings of Cespedes and Soler, pitchers Armando Rivero and Omar Luis Rodriguez, along with Cuban outfielder Henry Urrutia were also declared free agents at the beginning of the month when Soler became available. Luis Rodriguez, like Puig, must sign before July 2 or be subjected to the new CBA rules. Edited June 19, 2012 by SpainSOXfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If he hasn't even established residency yet, there is no way he is cleared and able to sign in two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 09:24 AM) If he hasn't even established residency yet, there is no way he is cleared and able to sign in two weeks. Who knows. I got a feeling they will find a way to get this to move very quickly. There is a lot of money at stake and if need be, I won't be surprised if certain people get bribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) Who knows. I got a feeling they will find a way to get this to move very quickly. There is a lot of money at stake and if need be, I won't be surprised if certain people get bribed. He has to establish residency, get a work permit, and get cleared by MLB by July 2. It took Soler about six months to do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Puig's lack of playing time in the last year+ ought to drive his price down from Soler, despite the fact by all accounts he's a better prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Anyone think KW takes a look at him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 You have to like that Torres is involved, that gives us at least a 50/50 chance if we really want him one would imagine. He knows how well our Cuban players have been treated, the example most recently being the Contreras/Ramirez gold medel "re-awarding." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) He has to establish residency, get a work permit, and get cleared by MLB by July 2. It took Soler about six months to do the same thing. The wheels of justice spin easier if greased properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If Puig is 21, depending on how quickly things go with his residency(personally, I'll be shocked if he's able to be signed before July 2nd) he's much better off just waiting until he turns 23 and then can receive a Cespedes/Soler/regular FA contract. Which would probably be at least 3-4 times the size of one he'll get under the new IFA rules. Saw this at a Cubs' blogsite. They think they're getting this guy for sure because of Soler and Concepcion. Torres reped Concepcion, and also brought him through Mexico. So the maximum they could spend to sign him would be $2.9 million after July deadline, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 The wheels of justice spin easier if greased properly. I know anything can happen but just can't see MLB doing Torres and which ever club bids for him a favor. They have been really hardline lately on a lot of stuff. The good part is that if he does not make the 2nd of July deadline then with the new CBA restrictions we should have just as good a chance as anyone to submit a winning bid, or I am wrong on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 06:07 PM) Anyone think KW takes a look at him? I heard rumors and read stories that we have no money and attendance is down, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Too bad Cuba's 3B won't defect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 06:10 PM) You have to like that Torres is involved, that gives us at least a 50/50 chance if we really want him one would imagine. He knows how well our Cuban players have been treated, the example most recently being the Contreras/Ramirez gold medel "re-awarding." That sounds good and all, but I think it is important to remember that this is a business first and foremost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 07:14 PM) Too bad Cuba's 3B won't defect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah, that's all we need, to get Gourriel, and we'll be all set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) The Sox know all about this kid. The OFAC process may be a killer here. Edited June 19, 2012 by bucket-of-suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:13 PM) The wheels of justice spin easier if greased properly. Somehow I don't think they will be able to bribe MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sox will go hard after him if bidding 25M+ for Soler is any indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Just to note...assuming he doesn't miraculously get his papers processed before the deadline, Baseball's new rule creates a $3 million total yearly cap level for international signings, with a heavy luxury tax of 75% on either the total overage or on any single contract over $2.9 million. So the Sox could easily offer $2.9 million if they wanted to spend all that money on one player. They could then still supplement that with smaller signings, with up to 6 bonuses of $50k and as many bonuses under $10k as they want to give out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 01:16 PM) That sounds good and all, but I think it is important to remember that this is a business first and foremost elrockin, Peter Gammons tweeted on Friday that the White Sox offered Soler somewhere between $25-30 million. If they offered that much to Soler, the same may be available for this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 01:49 PM) elrockin, Peter Gammons tweeted on Friday that the White Sox offered Soler somewhere between $25-30 million. If they offered that much to Soler, the same may be available for this kid. Only before July 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 01:50 PM) Only before July 2. Yes, thanks for the clarification. I was aware but I should have stated that fact in my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 02:14 PM) Too bad Cuba's 3B won't defect. I think it's the second baseman, yunieski gourriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Everytime I see the thread title, I think of Manny Puig. This is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) Everytime I see the thread title, I think of Manny Puig. This is a good thing. lol, same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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