jenksycat Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) Uhhh? I am saying this team could use a stronger lefty reliever if danks is healthy. This team could use a starter and a stronger lefty reliever if danks is not healthy. You realize this doesn't make any sense, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:27 PM) My only complaint about this deal is that it wasn't done sooner. We go on the road for the entire week. Had this trade been made right after the Cubs series, we get Youk for at least 2 games at home. That would have been a nice attendance boost, even though we drew alright the past two games. KW tried for Youk weeks ago but he wasn't gonna trade quality and $ was a factor. So were medicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) Rongey is loves him some Thornton. Like to a weird degree. I agree, I am not a fan of Rongey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) You realize this doesn't make any sense, correct? No I don't. I am not sure what they hell you guys are talking about. To compete this year I think the white sox need a better lefty in the pen. I propose they trade for one. At that point you DFA Ohman. Also, if john danks remains injured, the white sox need to acquire a proven starter via trade to compete as well. Why is that so complicated? Edited June 24, 2012 by MAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Dammit I f***ed it up. Adding to the confusion. I hope no one sees that edit. The post I originally quoted was about trading for another piece, not roster moves. Edited June 24, 2012 by MAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) Ohman isn't exactly a starting pitcher? Axelrod would go back to the bullpen if both pitchers came back. He'd go back to Charlotte at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ohman is fine if he's actually used as a lefty specialist. Another reliever wouldn't hurt though if we don't have to give up anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Whether or not the move works out, it's the right move to make right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) Ohman is fine if he's actually used as a lefty specialist. Another reliever wouldn't hurt though if we don't have to give up anything. It would be nice to have someone with more value than that in his roster spot, especially since robin doesn't seem to want to use him that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 06:37 PM) He'd go back to Charlotte at that point. I'd figure Bruney would be gone first, and then I'm not sure what happens beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Once again, KW suggests attendance needs to improve to add payroll, and a week later, albiet fairly small, adds payroll. Pardon me while I roll my eyes next time the attendance issue is mentioned. I will give him credit today, he did say when asked about the financial part of this trade, after the proverbial"I don't wan't to talk about it because you will bury me" , "It made sense to us from a player standpoint. It made sense to us from a financial standpoint". I wish that is what he would say everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 It ends up being about a million dollars added for a guy with a bad back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 At least Herm knows the routine. He'll have Youk on his massage table. Is it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) It's nice that KW was willing to see the writing on the wall with Stewart and not stubbornly force him on Ventura when it was pretty clear that he was struggling in his role and was going to be hard-pressed not to be passed by other starting candidates like Axelrod, Castro, Molina (crosses fingers) and possibly Santiago. Would love to see Beck from GSU lose some of that weight/muscle and get his mid 90's stuff back. Still believe he'll be better than the four guys listed as well as Pedro Hernandez (who could move into a lefty set-up role with another move or two with the major league roster). With Quintana continuing to be one of the most amazing unknown stories in baseball this year, it's pretty amazing we've lost our last 4 or 5 consecutive Peavy/Sale starts and are still in first place. That's without Danks and/or Humber figuring in... The big (perhaps biggest) concern right now would have to be how hard can Sale and Quintana be pushed in August and September. Danks coming back solves one of those two issues, but not both. That would still leave you starting Humber/Axelrod. Edited June 24, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) i know he hasnt been good this year, but we just added a guy with a .388 career OBP into our lineup for hudson/morel i f***ing love this deal Edited June 24, 2012 by daa84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 There's not really that much to dislike about this... I mean no, this isn't 2008 Youkilis, but they didn't really give up much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 06:45 AM) It ends up being about a million dollars added for a guy with a bad back. If he can leg out a triple (you could see him turning at least into a 2nd gear round 1B on the replay), then maybe he'll be okay. If nothing else, you have Hudson and Escobar behind him still. Not ideal, but it would be pretty amazing for him to come to a new team (and an easier division) and put up less than a 500 OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 06:55 PM) If he can leg out a triple (you could see him turning at least into a 2nd gear round 1B on the replay), then maybe he'll be okay. If nothing else, you have Hudson and Escobar behind him still. Not ideal, but it would be pretty amazing for him to come to a new team (and an easier division) and put up less than a 500 OPS. I don't think the division or his mental state has anything to do with his performance. If he's healthy he's going to find a groove quickly. If his body just isn't strong enough or is too broken down, then he'll continue to be Brent Morel bad as he has been the last couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I agree. I don't think extra motivation is going to make him better. I think he's been plenty motivated. Its all about health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Can the White Sox surpass KC and save ourselves the embarrassment of finishing behind them in attendance? Is it impossible for the White Sox to draw 25,000-30,000 on average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 04:00 PM) I agree. I don't think extra motivation is going to make him better. I think he's been plenty motivated. Its all about health. And playing daily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 What can I say that hasn't already been said? Remember that time that Zach Stewart almost threw a perfect game, but then he didn't? That was awesome. And, and, and remember, that time that Brent Lillibridge hit that home run? Thatwasawesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 06:59 AM) I don't think the division or his mental state has anything to do with his performance. If he's healthy he's going to find a groove quickly. If his body just isn't strong enough or is too broken down, then he'll continue to be Brent Morel bad as he has been the last couple weeks. With how many mid-season moves haven't exactly worked out and how many post-2008 moves have gone bust, it's time for a reasonable gamble other than DeAza, Humber, Viciedo, Santos and Quintana to pay dividends. Actually feel pretty good about the new vibe it will bring to the team and around the clubhouse. Always good to have those guys with so much playoff and World Series experience around a team that's essentially mostly comprised of either veterans or 1st/2nd/3rd year players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (59th street @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) Kaplan couldn't find his ass with two hands and a road map; total jerk off. QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 04:09 PM) I agree Kaplan is probably reporting whatever we are saying here on Soxtalk the guys a joke. I wish he would disappear off of the Chicago sports scene. Umm, wow. He's actually a great guy and definitely has his sources. And obviously he was right about this. Jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 BTW, great win and I love this deal. And I was a big Stewart fan too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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