elrockinMT Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 10:14 PM) Unless Danks is done for the year, the Sox aren't trading for starting pitching. Probably no trades is corrct that's why I think they might at least kick Moyer's tires. They might be flat for sure but who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) Well, Charlotte needs another starting pitcher now that Zach Stewart is gone. I, for one, would like to see them stretch out Hector ASAP. Whether we acquire another arm or not. Edited June 24, 2012 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 01:51 AM) I have very strong right hand from many years of use. Now time show what made of. Now you only need to use some of the Moises Alou "special treatment" and you're good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 05:59 PM) Now you only need to use some of the Moises Alou "special treatment" and you're good to go. I already do something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 12:21 PM) I can agree with this. Hopefully Detroit or Cleveland. William Tell is the Paul Konerko of posters. Thanks for the props Dick Allen! Being compared to Paul Konerko outside running and GIDP is a great thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 01:58 PM) Why does everybody act like the AL is so superior? Who has been winning the WS lately? Who is kicking the Sox ass this season?? The NL. I'd sign him. Why not? AL was up by 32 games head to head again this year going into today.................The AL has won battle about every year since interleague play started. AL is a way better offensive league. Pitchers era's are higher in the AL over the NL. Edited June 25, 2012 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ozzie's "NL-style" strategies and tactics from the Art of War weren't enough to counteract the AL this year? Shocker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 01:58 PM) Why does everybody act like the AL is so superior? Who has been winning the WS lately? Who is kicking the Sox ass this season?? The NL. I'd sign him. Why not? Have you ever heard of the designated hitter? Because the pitcher doesn't bat, it is harder to pitch in the AL than the NL. Every year, pitchers in the NL have lower ERAs because of this DH phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) Why does everybody act like the AL is so superior? Who has been winning the WS lately? Who is kicking the Sox ass this season?? The NL. I'd sign him. Why not? Final Interleague Total: AL- 142 NL- 110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 11:21 AM) I can agree with this. Hopefully Detroit or Cleveland. William Tell is the Paul Konerko of posters. I have this fear he would be Bruce Chen II facing the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Moyer was clearly not good enough for the Rockies, who have arguably the worst starting pitching in MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 And 142-110 is a VERY significant disparity that translates to 91 victories for the average AL team, were they to play a full NL schedule. And that total will win divisions many times. In other words, a perfectly average AL team is a legit contender in the NL, if interleague sample size is sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 06:41 PM) And 142-110 is a VERY significant disparity that translates to 91 victories for the average AL team, were they to play a full NL schedule. And that total will win divisions many times. In other words, a perfectly average AL team is a legit contender in the NL, if interleague sample size is sufficient. The last two WS champs would say the AL isn't all that special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) The last two WS champs would say the AL isn't all that special. Perhaps you could find a statistics professor at KU to explain to you why a sample size of 504 games over the past two years is more significant than a sample size of 12 games. Edited June 25, 2012 by HickoryHuskers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 02:09 PM) Perhaps you could find a statistics professor at KU to explain to you why a sample size of 504 games over the past two years is more significant than a sample size of 12 games. Thanks for saving me the trouble, DoubleH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) And 142-110 is a VERY significant disparity that translates to 91 victories for the average AL team, were they to play a full NL schedule. And that total will win divisions many times. In other words, a perfectly average AL team is a legit contender in the NL, if interleague sample size is sufficient. And since the AL Central went 45-45, the AL West and East teams combined for 97-65 in the other 162 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxmaniac! Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Perhaps you could find a statistics professor at KU to explain to you why a sample size of 504 games over the past two years is more significant than a sample size of 12 games. Who needs statistics when you have a pair of eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (soxmaniac! @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) Who needs statistics when you have a pair of eyes? Hell, saying the NL is better doesn't even pass the eye test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxmaniac! Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Hell, saying the NL is better doesn't even pass the eye test. it passed greg's eye test, his criteria must be a bit different from the norm though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 06:26 AM) Have you ever heard of the designated hitter? Because the pitcher doesn't bat, it is harder to pitch in the AL than the NL. Every year, pitchers in the NL have lower ERAs because of this DH phenomenon. That's obviously the bigger issue. Even if the NL had better teams than the AL in a given year, it would still be easier to pitch in the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 02:31 PM) The last two WS champs would say the AL isn't all that special. The AL as a whole can be much better than the NL as a whole but still lose to an NL team in a best-of-7 series. Were you really unaware of the ERA discrepancy between the two leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) Perhaps you could find a statistics professor at KU to explain to you why a sample size of 504 games over the past two years is more significant than a sample size of 12 games. Call Les Grobstein's show and tell him the AL is way better and get ready for some fireworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 lol. Who put great 5th starter in 1995 in the sub-title? That's awesome. I'll give props to whomever did that as long as it wasn't Kalapse. He's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I cannot tell a lie. I just can't see Moyer as a serious option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:17 AM) lol. Who put great 5th starter in 1995 in the sub-title? That's awesome. I'll give props to whomever did that as long as it wasn't Kalapse. He's terrible. Whoever did it lives in the past unlike me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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