Steve9347 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:31 AM) Ridiculous that Weiber, who finished 4th in qualifiers, doesn't make the 24-person All-Around competition because two other Americans were ahead of her. Yeah - it's kinda f***ed up. I presume that rule is there simply so there aren't 5 Americans, 5 Chinese, and 5 Ruskies every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:31 AM) Ridiculous that Weiber, who finished 4th in qualifiers, doesn't make the 24-person All-Around competition because two other Americans were ahead of her. That TV coverage was just absolutely brutal, the way the camera just followed her around the entire arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:31 AM) Ridiculous that Weiber, who finished 4th in qualifiers, doesn't make the 24-person All-Around competition because two other Americans were ahead of her. These type of rules are pretty common place, its why countries can only qualify X teams in certain sports. It hurts the overall competition, but its to give everyone a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) These type of rules are pretty common place, its why countries can only qualify X teams in certain sports. It hurts the overall competition, but its to give everyone a chance. The Americans were only allowed to send a team of 5 to the Olympics. Even if all 5 were monsters, that's only 5/24 slots. There's plenty of remaining room. Just doesn't make sense to knock out a #4 seed in favor of a #25 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:59 AM) The Americans were only allowed to send a team of 5 to the Olympics. Even if all 5 were monsters, that's only 5/24 slots. There's plenty of remaining room. Just doesn't make sense to knock out a #4 seed in favor of a #25 seed. Did you see Bob Costas discussing it with Bela Karolyi(sp)? He made the awful mistake of comparing it to the NCAA tournament not allowing the 3rd place ACC/B1G team in to let a weaker team in. Um Bob, the tourney is not the best 68 teams. Several lower teams make it, simply because of their conference affiliation. Edited July 30, 2012 by LittleHurt05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:59 AM) The Americans were only allowed to send a team of 5 to the Olympics. Even if all 5 were monsters, that's only 5/24 slots. There's plenty of remaining room. Just doesn't make sense to knock out a #4 seed in favor of a #25 seed. But it happens in basically every Olympic sport. Usually the cut is before the Olympics, most people just dont realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 10:04 AM) Did you see Bob Costas discussing it with Bela Karolyi(sp)? He made the awful mistake of comparing it to the NCAA tournament not allowing the 3rd place ACC/B1G team in to let a weaker team in. Um Bob, the tourney is not the best 68 teams. Several lower teams make it, simply because of their conference affiliation. He was snapping about it. I couldn't understand most of what he said, but he was good and pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 10:04 AM) Did you see Bob Costas discussing it with Bela Karolyi(sp)? He made the awful mistake of comparing it to the NCAA tournament not allowing the 3rd place ACC/B1G team in to let a weaker team in. Um Bob, the tourney is not the best 68 teams. Several lower teams make it, simply because of their conference affiliation. The better comparison is to how MLB used to work, where the team with the 3rd best record in the AL may not make the playoffs if they happen to be 3rd in the AL East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:07 PM) But it happens in basically every Olympic sport. Usually the cut is before the Olympics, most people just dont realize. So why have another cut of that nature IN the Olympics? Does any other sport do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) Did you see Bob Costas discussing it with Bela Karolyi(sp)? He made the awful mistake of comparing it to the NCAA tournament not allowing the 3rd place ACC/B1G team in to let a weaker team in. Um Bob, the tourney is not the best 68 teams. Several lower teams make it, simply because of their conference affiliation. The comparison works. The NCAA Tourney has at least the top 40 teams because of all the at-large bids. You'd never see the #4 ranked AP team kept out of the tournament because #2 and #3 were in the same conference. No one really cares if a 18-12 major conference team gets displaced by an inferior mid-major who grabbed an auto-bid because that 18-12 team is mediocre and has virtually no chance of winning. Weiber would have been a favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 10:11 AM) So why have another cut of that nature IN the Olympics? Does any other sport do that? I would bet they have limits in other sports. For instance, they would almost have to limit the marathon, otherwise it would be all guys from Kenya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) But it happens in basically every Olympic sport. Usually the cut is before the Olympics, most people just dont realize. Countries can only qualify two people for individual events in swimming, three in track&field, etc. Since gymnastics has a team component and you are bringing at least five gymnasts anyway, they can afford to wait until the Olympic preliminaries to make the cut down to two gymnasts for the individual competition. Edited July 30, 2012 by HickoryHuskers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 10:16 AM) The comparison works. The NCAA Tourney has at least the top 40 teams because of all the at-large bids. You'd never see the #4 ranked AP team kept out of the tournament because #2 and #3 were in the same conference. No one really cares if a 18-12 major conference team gets displaced by an inferior mid-major who grabbed an auto-bid because that 18-12 team is mediocre and has virtually no chance of winning. Weiber would have been a favorite. The at-large bids prevent the top teams from missing the tourney, but it's still a similar concept. In one "sport", each country must be represented twice, so it's not the 24 best overall gymnasts. In b-ball, every conference must be represented once, so it's not the 68 best basketball teams. The exclusions are lower down on the totem pole, but they are still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) The at-large bids prevent the top teams from missing the tourney, but it's still a similar concept. In one "sport", each country must be represented twice No, the rule is that each country can be represented twice AT MOST, not that each country must be represented twice. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) , so it's not the 24 best overall gymnasts. In b-ball, every conference must be represented once, so it's not the 68 best basketball teams. The exclusions are lower down on the totem pole, but they are still there. There's a world of difference between a #4 seed contender and a #50 seed needed solely to fill out a bracket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 10:45 AM) No, the rule is that each country can be represented twice AT MOST, not that each country must be represented twice. Oops. For some reason, I thought it was 12 countries qualified and each country gets two gymnasts into the finals. There's a world of difference between a #4 seed contender and a #50 seed needed solely to fill out a bracket I see the difference, but it's still a format that allows for lesser teams to qualify based on their affiliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Just to add more info, 3 countries got hit by the rule because they had 3 girls in the top 24. #4 from USA #12 from Russia #21 from Great Britain They were replace by #25 from France (none in top 24) #26 from Poland (none in top 24) #27 from Japan (one in top 24, #8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:41 AM) Yeah - it's kinda f***ed up. I presume that rule is there simply so there aren't 5 Americans, 5 Chinese, and 5 Ruskies every year. Total joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Stolen from twitter: "I'm not suggesting that NBC's use of tape-delay is getting out of hand, but I think they just aired something from the 2008 Olympics." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 11:29 AM) Stolen from twitter: "I'm not suggesting that NBC's use of tape-delay is getting out of hand, but I think they just aired something from the 2008 Olympics." Everytime they show Phelps' mom yet again in THIS Olympics, they might as well show something from 2008. That's old news, find a new story for f***'s sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Every Olympic sport seems to have stupid qualifying rules. In the men's 400 IM, there was a swimmer from Qatar who finished with a time of 5:21. The 2nd slowest finished ended up at 4:35. How is a guy like that allowed into the Olympics? They are lucky he didn't drown during the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I dont know, the look of shock on their face as Phelps finished 4th was worth it. Its as if they truly thought he was so special he wouldnt even need to train hard to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Stolen from twitter: "I'm not suggesting that NBC's use of tape-delay is getting out of hand, but I think they just aired something from the 2008 Olympics." The NBC Delayed twitter feed is pretty good. @NBCDelayed CORRECTION: Dewey doesn't defeat Truman, Truman re-elected President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I want it to be delayed for primetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Swimming: Lochte finishes 4th in the 200 free. Missy Franklin wins gold in the 100 back, just 14 minutes after swimming a heat in the 200 free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 05:48 PM) I want it to be delayed for primetime. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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