Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Apparently this rumor of Deng to GSW for the 7th overall pick is gaining some momentum. No word on what players would move to match salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:01 AM) Apparently this rumor of Deng to GSW for the 7th overall pick is gaining some momentum. No word on what players would move to match salaries. Andrew Bogut or David Lee could be included to match Deng's salary directly, Jefferson or Biedrins could be used along with a smaller salary to match. None of those players are expiring deals, unless Jefferson/Biedrins decline 2013/2014 player options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 My buddy said rumor on realgm is 3 way with Utah and GS. GS gets Deng, Utah gets Beidrins and picks(presumably Bulls this year and future plus from GS), Bulls get Dorell Wright, 7th pick and Devin Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I like it, because this year is lost as you stated, and then they can amnesty Boozer next offseason, giving the Bulls enough to offer a max contract. Who is going to be a UFA after this season? Oh, possibly Dwight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 09:32 AM) I like it, because this year is lost as you stated, and then they can amnesty Boozer next offseason, giving the Bulls enough to offer a max contract. Who is going to be a UFA after this season? Oh, possibly Dwight. I guess I'd have to deal with it, but I really don't like Dwight Howard. Not someone I want to have to cheer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 FWIW: Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA The Bulls have privately assured Luol Deng that there's "no chance" of a deal sending him to the Warriors, league source tells Y! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:46 AM) FWIW: Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA The Bulls have privately assured Luol Deng that there's "no chance" of a deal sending him to the Warriors, league source tells Y! Oh NBA rumors involving the Bulls, I hate you so hard. The Bulls rarely actually do anything. Thank you, Woj, for slapping me in the face with some reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) The Bulls keeping status quo and making minimal adjustments to the roster this summer will put them in a difficult position to contend going forward, I really hope for once they show some aggression and re-tool this roster like it needs to be. Knowing Bulls management they will essentially blow up the bench replace it with rookies and continue to try to contend with this same core. The time to move Deng is now. 13.3M this coming year 14.4M the following year, value is pretty high right now. For a team in desperate need of a second scorer/creator we can't afford to be paying 28 million over the next two years for an intangible defensive spot up shooter who can't create his own shot. Other teams certainly value a guy like Deng and the Bulls scooping a lottery pick plus ideally some cap relief just makes too much sense. Naturally the Bulls will hold on to him while our current roster is not in a position to compete with Miami in the East and everyone notices how necessary a re-tool is. Edited June 25, 2012 by WHarris1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 09:19 AM) My buddy said rumor on realgm is 3 way with Utah and GS. GS gets Deng, Utah gets Beidrins and picks(presumably Bulls this year and future plus from GS), Bulls get Dorell Wright, 7th pick and Devin Harris Wright, Harris, and 7th pick...I'll definitely take that for Deng, who might even be able to play until December/January if he has surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Well it looks like it is time to move on to the next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:51 AM) The Bulls keeping status quo and making minimal adjustments to the roster this summer will put them in a difficult position to contend going forward, I really hope for once they show some aggression and re-tool this roster like it needs to be. Knowing Bulls management they will essentially blow up the bench replace it with rookies and continue to try to contend with this same core. The time to move Deng is now. 13.3M this coming year 14.4M the following year, value is pretty high right now. For a team in desperate need of a second scorer/creator we can't afford to be paying 28 million over the next two years for an intangible defensive spot up shooter who can't create his own shot. Other teams certainly value a guy like Deng and the Bulls scooping a lottery pick plus ideally some cap relief just makes too much sense. Naturally the Bulls will hold on to him while our current roster is not in a position to compete with Miami in the East and everyone notices how necessary a re-tool is. Problem is...Deng's value right now is really hurt by the fact that he needs that wrist surgery post olympics to come back 100%. Either he comes into next season struggling with that injury or he misses the first month or two of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:10 AM) Problem is...Deng's value right now is really hurt by the fact that he needs that wrist surgery post olympics to come back 100%. Either he comes into next season struggling with that injury or he misses the first month or two of the year. His injury is definitely a concern but compared to where his overall value is as a player, I don't see it being hampered too greatly by the health concerns. So many of these teams picking in the top half or so of the lottery could seemingly use a good SF with defense and leadership abilities. Bottom line it seems like quite a few teams have been engaging in trade talks for Deng, it's just a matter of if conservative Bulls (fall in love with their own players) management is willing to swing a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I dont hold my breathe about the Bulls making exciting moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yeah it wouldnt be the first time we got all crazy around the draft only to see the Bulls pull back and go status quo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Lebron covering up the Adidas logo on his shirt. Missed the cap though, 'bron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) Lebron covering up the Adidas logo on his shirt. Missed the cap though, 'bron. Once again copying Jordan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 And this is why the Bulls will never, ever win a championship. The FO is just too timid and too afraid. f*** Luol Deng. He's going to play for his country or whatever. But they're not overpaying you by X amount of dollars. The Bulls are. You're not Scottie Pippen (even though 2K5 said you were). You peaked peaked 5 years ago. Yeah, you play good defense. You fit in a particular type of system. But you're no all-star. You're not a guy that can be counted on to produce offensively every night. If that GS deal is legit, do it. If GS pulls back, fine. But that's the type of deal needed to compliment your superstar long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 It'd more likely be Utah that pulls out on that deal. They don't need to be paying Andris Biedrins $9 million to be their 4th best big man (5th if Kanter develops). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 03:44 PM) And this is why the Bulls will never, ever win a championship. The FO is just too timid and too afraid. f*** Luol Deng. He's going to play for his country or whatever. But they're not overpaying you by X amount of dollars. The Bulls are. You're not Scottie Pippen (even though 2K5 said you were). You peaked peaked 5 years ago. Yeah, you play good defense. You fit in a particular type of system. But you're no all-star. You're not a guy that can be counted on to produce offensively every night. If that GS deal is legit, do it. If GS pulls back, fine. But that's the type of deal needed to compliment your superstar long-term. I hate being a Bulls fan sometimes. There are all these lavishing rumors of awesome and unrealistic trades, but they get shot down in like 5 min because everyone knows the Bulls FO is too conservative to do something so out of the box. The FO is about as boring as it can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) It'd more likely be Utah that pulls out on that deal. They don't need to be paying Andris Biedrins $9 million to be their 4th best big man (5th if Kanter develops). Yeah, that deal made no sense for Utah at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) It'd more likely be Utah that pulls out on that deal. They don't need to be paying Andris Biedrins $9 million to be their 4th best big man (5th if Kanter develops). Yeah, you're right. I should've said Utah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 04:50 PM) It'd more likely be Utah that pulls out on that deal. They don't need to be paying Andris Biedrins $9 million to be their 4th best big man (5th if Kanter develops). But the real point is...no matter how little sense a proposed trade makes for the other team(s) involved, we always get to blame the Bulls front office for them not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) But the real point is...no matter how little sense a proposed trade makes for the other team(s) involved, we always get to blame the Bulls front office for them not happening. You mean like when Paxson didn't want to break up the future deng/hinrich/gordon dynasty for gasol, kg, or kobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) You mean like when Paxson didn't want to break up the future deng/hinrich/gordon dynasty for gasol, kg, or kobe? Yes, I mean those exact cases where it wasn't the Bulls who pulled out of the deals but the Bulls still get blamed for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 04:10 PM) Yes, I mean those exact cases where it wasn't the Bulls who pulled out of the deals but the Bulls still get blamed for them. I see. So poor Chicago Bulls? We see guys like Gasol, KG, Paul and Anthony getting traded. But whenever the Bulls are involved, it's the other team, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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