Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 28, 2013 -> 01:37 AM) I've been to those websites and a couple of other basketball forums as well and the consensus in all of those is that MJ was the best ever and generally his GOAT competition consists of KAJ, Wilt and to a lesser extant, Bird, Magic and Russell. Sorry J4L but Kobe isn't regarded that high up. LeBron will enter that class by the time he is done. Kobe won't. SMH at the notion that it's mostly only Bulls homers put MJ on top of GOAT discussions... lmao. Dude, where did I say Michael wasn't the greatest of all-time? QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 28, 2013 -> 08:14 AM) GMAB, you made a terrible argument based on a few games in Kobes career and Zoom destroyed you with facts, and you fall back on "This is homer central, everyone is defending michael like their life is on the line" awful Since when is, like, 40 a few games? Edited May 28, 2013 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 28, 2013 -> 08:21 AM) lmao. Dude, where did I say Michael wasn't the greatest of all-time? Since when is, like, 40 a few games? youtube is your friend. Im out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 27, 2013 -> 07:24 PM) You posted something like he's arguably a "more explosive scorer" than MJ using a couple isolated incidents, which is very odd to say. Saying anyone is better than MJ in something scoring-related (other than 3-point shooting) is questionable at best. I doubt it turns into MJ/Kobe without that post. It's a strange phrasing, it seems like you're saying because he got hot a few times he's a better scorer than Jordan ("more explosive" generally implies better). It's like saying Nolan Ryan is the "most unhittable pitcher" because he has 7 no-hitters. Perhaps you should stop bothering to argue with the guy who said "Paul George is a more athletic Scottie Pippen"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 28, 2013 -> 12:32 AM) Of course it won't help me here. This is homer Bulls central. A neutral site like realgm or insidehoops and plenty of people would agree with me (and disagree). That's not really saying much, there are quite a few drooling morons floating around RealGM. I could say the Bobcats are going to win the title next year and probably find someone that would agree with me. There are quite a few good posters as well, but man, some of those threads are a mess (especially on the general board). There's also this thing called "Lakers homers", they're far more ridiculous than anyone I've seen on this board (with the exception of RZZZA). Edited May 28, 2013 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 27, 2013 -> 07:10 PM) I find this extremely weird: Celtics "likely" to buy out Paul Pierce. I don't see what the point is. They're still going to be at/near the cap ($73 million committed with Pierce). They're not really going to be in full rebuild until KG is gone anyways and next year is going to be dicey until Rondo gets back. Plus if they really don't want Pierce, I would think they could trade him for something rather than simply buying him out. I would like to un-bury this because I feel it warrants discussion. Why are they buying out Pierce and where would he go? He's still a pretty good player and it's not like they're way over the tax line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 28, 2013 -> 09:35 AM) I would like to un-bury this because I feel it warrants discussion. Why are they buying out Pierce and where would he go? He's still a pretty good player and it's not like they're way over the tax line. I wouldn't necessarily believe that story given it was started as a rumor by a Cavaliers' reporter. That said, if they did buy him out, he'd be a wonderful addition to the Bulls assuming they reign in his shot selection. Maybe we can get a discount like the Heat always do. Or, more likely, he'll sign a minimum deal with the Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 28, 2013 -> 09:39 AM) I wouldn't necessarily believe that story given it was started as a rumor by a Cavaliers' reporter. That said, if they did buy him out, he'd be a wonderful addition to the Bulls assuming they reign in his shot selection. Maybe we can get a discount like the Heat always do. Or, more likely, he'll sign a minimum deal with the Heat. I didn't really analyze the source, just saw it pop up on multiple reputable places. I would think Pierce is still good enough to at least get an MLE level deal, could possibly be more if contenders with cap space whiff on their free agent/trade targets. I'm thinking maybe Dallas, their clock is ticking with Dirk around anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 28, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) I didn't really analyze the source, just saw it pop up on multiple reputable places. I would think Pierce is still good enough to at least get an MLE level deal, could possibly be more if contenders with cap space whiff on their free agent/trade targets. I'm thinking maybe Dallas, their clock is ticking with Dirk around anyways. Dallas has made it clear their #1 target is a guy named Dwight Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 28, 2013 -> 09:39 AM) I wouldn't necessarily believe that story given it was started as a rumor by a Cavaliers' reporter. That said, if they did buy him out, he'd be a wonderful addition to the Bulls assuming they reign in his shot selection. Maybe we can get a discount like the Heat always do. Or, more likely, he'll sign a minimum deal with the Heat. Well, at least he knows Thibs. That seemed to work in our favor for NateRob's shot selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2013 -> 10:08 AM) Dallas has made it clear their #1 target is a guy named Dwight Howard. I'll re-post what I said, bolded for emphasis: I would think Pierce is still good enough to at least get an MLE level deal, could possibly be more if contenders with cap space whiff on their free agent/trade targets. I'm thinking maybe Dallas, their clock is ticking with Dirk around anyways. Clearly Pierce isn't a primary target at his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 28, 2013 -> 09:29 AM) That's not really saying much, there are quite a few drooling morons floating around RealGM. I could say the Bobcats are going to win the title next year and probably find a few people that would agree with me. There are quite a few good posters as well, but man, some of those threads are a mess (especially on the general board). There's also this thing called "Lakers homers", they're far more ridiculous than anyone I've seen on this board (with the exception of RZZZA). On InsideHoops, they call them Kobe stans, (as in Stan, the obsessive fan in the Eminem song of the same name). They are the only ones who insist that Kobe is close to MJ but they generally get ridiculed by the rest of the forum members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story...antage-flopping Says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I love how basically a bunch of second tier players get fined for flopping and Wade gets away scot free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 28, 2013 -> 12:53 PM) I love how basically a bunch of second tier players get fined for flopping and Wade gets away scot free Wade has become quite the dirty, flopping b**** his last few years. I don't remember him doing this back when he was a 26 PPG guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 28, 2013 -> 12:59 PM) Wade has become quite the dirty, flopping b**** his last few years. I don't remember him doing this back when he was a 26 PPG guy. i agree 100%. he does a lot of "hair pulling" on the court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Super stars getting super star treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 28, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) Super stars getting super star treatment. Bulls fans have no reason to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 28, 2013 -> 12:47 PM) http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story...antage-flopping Says a lot. And last week he stated that "he doesn't flop ever, doesn't need to". I hate him so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 28, 2013 -> 06:59 PM) Wade has become quite the dirty, flopping b**** his last few years. I don't remember him doing this back when he was a 26 PPG guy. He stopped getting the "kick out your leg to make contact" shooting foul and got dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 That blown call was devastating. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 The fix is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hibbert is fat and slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 LeBron must feel like he's in Cleveland again. Wade is terrible. He's been wack all playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Sign of the Apocalypse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 28, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) The fix is on. LeBron fouls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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