witesoxfan Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) I actually really like my typo. I agree 2000%. It's sounds like an alien robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Kirk would really help us out if he would just hurt his groin and sit down for 6 months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 11:43 AM) I don't see how. Rose/Noah/Taj is already $40 million and you'd have to offer Mirotic an MLE-type contract in order to make it profitable for him to come to the NBA. Add in the various draft picks and you're at $50 million, more if they really do get the Bobcats' pick, and you need 6 or 7 more guys signed. Are you expecting the cap to go up like $10 million in the next two years? Because that's basically the only way they'd get THAT much cap space. Edit- I missed the "before signing Mirotic" part, which does help their cause. Still probably not $15 million, more like the 8-10 range. Could the Bulls actually use the MLE to sign Mirotic? I.e. if they signed a player beforehand to max out their cap space, could they then sign Mirotic with the MLE in the same year, and then fill up the remaining roster with veterans exemptions and a draftee or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 12:47 PM) Could the Bulls actually use the MLE to sign Mirotic? I.e. if they signed a player beforehand to max out their cap space, could they then sign Mirotic with the MLE in the same year, and then fill up the remaining roster with veterans exemptions and a draftee or two? Under normal rules, no, you wouldn't be able to use both cap space and the MLE. Any potential exceptions would be subtracted from you cap space, so they'd have to renounce it to get that space. However, it's a little trickier since they already own the rights to Mirotic. I don't totally understand the rules for that. My inclination would be that they could offer him rookie scale, but would have to have space/MLE to give him more than that. I couldn't find an easy answer to that unfortunately. Even if you could, the problem is that they'd still have cap holds for those remaining roster spots at the rookie minimum (which is like $500k). That rule was specifically designed so you can't spend like $60 million on 4 players and then fill out the rest of your roster after the fact. So their total would be... Rose- $18.85 mil Noah- $13.15 mil Taj- $8 mil Teague- $2.12 mil Butler- $1.12 mil 2013 draft pick- $1.4 mil (estimate) 2014 draft pick- $1.2 mil (estimate) Cap Holds for remaing roster spots (6)- $3.04 mil Total- $48.88 mil. Assuming a $60 million cap (which would be a slight increase), that'd leave roughly $11 million. If they did get Charlotte's pick, that would add another $1.5 to $2.5 million to their salary total depending on where the pick actually landed. Also, as I posted earlier, the MLE would be added to their salary total (also possibly the Korver trade exception). So to summarize: No Mirotic and no deals besides Rose/Noah/Taj and their own picks- $11 mil unless the cap goes up more than a few million. With Mirotic (and assuming they can't sign him for more than scale if they're over the cap without the MLE)- roughly $6 mil unless the cap goes up a fair amount. Edit- fixed it after reading more info. Biggest change is what is used for cap holds for remaing roster spots. Edited December 20, 2012 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17143099-41...nce-injury.html DERRICK ROSE IS PRACTICING SWEET BABY JESUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17143099-41...nce-injury.html DERRICK ROSE IS PRACTICING SWEET BABY JESUS Now I want to hug you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:07 PM) Now I want to hug you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 He might beat my prediction of 01/28 at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 My guess is he comes back tonight wearing #45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Don't come back too early. Still nervous watching Rubio jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Awesome news in this boring time on the board...I'm gonna predict he comes back Jan 19th, the first game of a 4 game home stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17143099-41...nce-injury.html DERRICK ROSE IS PRACTICING SWEET BABY JESUS We're talkin' bout practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 In before Felix makes fun of us over our excitement of a DRose comeback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) In before Felix makes fun of us over our excitement of a DRose comeback... I doubt he would make fun of that, he just takes issue with our overexcitement about his abilities and deficiencies. Nobody would do the same over Rubio to him, I am sure he was pretty excited to see Rubio delivering unreal passes through his legs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) In before Felix makes fun of us over our excitement of a DRose comeback... You have no idea who I am or what I'm about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Felix @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 04:43 PM) You have no idea who I am or what I'm about. You have a Calvin avatar that makes funny faces, you are a TWolves fan, and KEVIN.LOVE. I know everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Touche, sir. Touche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Nice to see Hinrich finally having a good game. Bulls also as a team doing some very nice work. Edited December 22, 2012 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Bulls looking good. Fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 This is so awesome. The Bulls are curb stomping these idiots. Knicks are imploring, and starting to play dirty. Back to back great showings for Bulls. Don't let them back in this one. Kirk is even looking competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 *Imploding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) *Imploding Lol I like imploring better. Because they were begging the refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Bring Rose in the last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Knicks have had no composure all game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Pretty much everyone except Boozer had a good game. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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