Soxbadger Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The problem is that Butler is not really a great shooter, so in College he scored a lot more getting to the hoop and relying on athleticism. In college he averaged about 6-7 fts per game, he just is unlikely to get that amount in the pros. He can probably be a Ronnie Brewer if he can get better as a defender, but itd be a huge improvement if Butler even comes close to averaging 10 pts per game next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:47 PM) The problem is that Butler is not really a great shooter, so in College he scored a lot more getting to the hoop and relying on athleticism. In college he averaged about 6-7 fts per game, he just is unlikely to get that amount in the pros. He can probably be a Ronnie Brewer if he can get better as a defender, but itd be a huge improvement if Butler even comes close to averaging 10 pts per game next year. I see no problem in him going to the hoop a lot on that 2nd unit. He won't score enough to be a starter but I think he'll develop into a pretty good role player. In the limited time we saw him I think he may already be on par with Brewer defensively, I remember Thibs putting him in against guys like Lebron and Melo and giving them fits. Edited June 26, 2012 by 2nd_city_saint787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Other rumors/tidbits: Jason Kidd would be interested in playing for the Bulls and is ok with a backup role, the Bulls are one of the top suitors for Brandon Roy, and Nikola Mirotic likely will stay overseas until 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Sounds like they are keeping the band together. MLE for one of the PG's you mentioned, probably draft a scoring sf/sg in the first, hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 01:47 AM) Other rumors/tidbits: Jason Kidd would be interested in playing for the Bulls and is ok with a backup role, the Bulls are one of the top suitors for Brandon Roy, and Nikola Mirotic likely will stay overseas until 2014. What kind of money is Roy gonna get?? If the funds are there, which right now theyre not, Id take a flyer on Roy in a "throwaway year"....Would he take the MLE?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress The Houston Rockets have traded Chase Budinger to Minnesota for the #18 pick. Confirmed. Houston now has: #14, #16, #18 and are believed to be making a push for Dwight. Edited June 26, 2012 by WHarris1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Just saw on SC that there is supposedly "mutual interest" between Ray Allen and the Heat. Wouldn't that be just wonderful (assuming he's healthy, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:10 AM) Just saw on SC that there is supposedly "mutual interest" between Ray Allen and the Heat. Wouldn't that be just wonderful (assuming he's healthy, of course). I don't think he'll get more than 25 min of playing time there. They already have Battier, LeBron, Wade, and James Jones at the 2 and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:16 AM) I don't think he'll get more than 25 min of playing time there. They already have Battier, LeBron, Wade, and James Jones at the 2 and 3. James Jones ain't stealing tick from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 12:47 AM) Other rumors/tidbits: Jason Kidd would be interested in playing for the Bulls and is ok with a backup role, the Bulls are one of the top suitors for Brandon Roy, and Nikola Mirotic likely will stay overseas until 2014. Jason Kidd is a backup at this point. He shot 36% last year, granted, they were pretty much all 3 pointers... I also don't see how Brandon Roy can have healthy knees ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:16 AM) James Jones ain't stealing tick from anyone. Even if he takes Battier's role, he will still have a hard time getting more than 25 min of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:19 AM) Even if he takes Battier's role, he will still have a hard time getting more than 25 min of playing time. 25 MPG could be ideal for his current health status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:21 AM) 25 MPG could be ideal for his current health status That's all they would really need from him in a 6th man role. Hoping it doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 12:58 AM) What kind of money is Roy gonna get?? If the funds are there, which right now theyre not, Id take a flyer on Roy in a "throwaway year"....Would he take the MLE?? Apparently multiple teams are interested in giving him the full MLE. He got the same "platelet-rich" therapy that Kobe did. The likelihood of him returning to form would be low, but if he somehow did with the Bulls, well, that could be really, really interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) Apparently multiple teams are interested in giving him the full MLE. He got the same "platelet-rich" therapy that Kobe did. The likelihood of him returning to form would be low, but if he somehow did with the Bulls, well, that could be really, really interesting. Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_SI Have spoken to three sports medicine experts who say platelet-rich-plasma therapy would have little/no value to Brandon Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 I hate that the Bulls' improvement idea is Brandon Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I thought Roy retired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:55 AM) I thought Roy retired? That would be why he's a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 After watching Ray Allen help the Heat against Boston, I would welcome his addition to Miami. It was sad watching Jesus Shuttleworth fall so far. In the playoffs he shot 30% from three, under 40% total. He didnt even shoot free throws well, around 70%. He was decent during the regular season, I just dont think he has much left in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:52 AM) I hate that the Bulls' improvement idea is Brandon Roy. Realistically, how many options do they have? They are cap-f***ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 They could take a risk, I think most fans are wondering how this current Bulls team is going to manage to win a title. Last year it was easy to sell Bulls fans on standing pat and making small adjustments. I also think fans feel Deng is somewhat of a risk and arent sure why the Bulls are seemingly not thinking about moving him while its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 11:17 AM) They could take a risk, I think most fans are wondering how this current Bulls team is going to manage to win a title. Last year it was easy to sell Bulls fans on standing pat and making small adjustments. I also think fans feel Deng is somewhat of a risk and arent sure why the Bulls are seemingly not thinking about moving him while its possible. I've gotten the impression that they've thought a lot about moving him, Deng knows they've thought a lot about moving him, but they aren't going to move him just to move him, they're going to move him if a deal comes along that helps them long term, particularly with the luxury tax line...and teams are going to be loathe to simply help the Bulls out in exchange for Luol Deng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:33 PM) Why? That would seemingly make the least sense of any pick the Bulls could possibly make. Id rather have Ezeli than Sullinger. Sullinger reminds me of Boozer, and the last thing the Bulls need is 2 of them. $$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 10:21 AM) I've gotten the impression that they've thought a lot about moving him, Deng knows they've thought a lot about moving him, but they aren't going to move him just to move him, they're going to move him if a deal comes along that helps them long term, particularly with the luxury tax line...and teams are going to be loathe to simply help the Bulls out in exchange for Luol Deng. No one is saying to move him just to move him, the Bulls just dont make aggressive moves. A lot of places are saying the Bulls assured Deng they wont trade him, I cant find the source and other Bulls writers say that the Bulls have contacted some lottery teams, so who knows. That being said, the lack of creativity from the front office is mind blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 11:30 AM) No one is saying to move him just to move him, the Bulls just dont make aggressive moves. A lot of places are saying the Bulls assured Deng they wont trade him, I cant find the source and other Bulls writers say that the Bulls have contacted some lottery teams, so who knows. That being said, the lack of creativity from the front office is mind blowing. No, they assured Deng he wasn't going to the Warriors, not that he wouldn't be traded. According to a tweet by Yahoo Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski on Monday morning, the Bulls have privately assured Deng that there is “no chance” they will trade him to the Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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