bmags Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 they won't clog the lane, but what they WILL do is when rose goes up and drives and misses, we will have 2 excellent rebounders getting the put back. BOOM DUNK CHAMPIONSHIP f*** we suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:09 PM) BOOM DUNK CHAMPIONSHIP f*** we suck. :lolhitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:04 PM) Noah would be gone in either trade. Even if he somehow stayed, they wouldn't clog the lane anymore than Noah and Boozer do now. Do Howard or Bynum have a mid range game like Boozer? (no I'm not saying Boozers better than either of them before someone thinks im that stupid) What happens if we trade Noah and Howard/Bynum don't resign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) Do Howard or Bynum have a mid range game like Boozer? (no I'm not saying Boozers better than either of them before someone thinks im that stupid) What happens if we trade Noah and Howard/Bynum don't resign? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 For the Bulls front office apologists: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post...-talks-till-end We were trying! We just have s***ty trade assets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) Do Howard or Bynum have a mid range game like Boozer? (no I'm not saying Boozers better than either of them before someone thinks im that stupid) What happens if we trade Noah and Howard/Bynum don't resign? Boozer isn't exactly Dirk Nowitzki. Anything you lose from the ability to hit maybe 2 mid-range jumpers a game is easily made up on their dunking prowess on pick and rolls, actually finishing if the big slides over to help on Derrick, or their improved finishing in transition. Plus they're guys that actually draw double teams, which would create cutting lanes for Derrick on the kickout. Boozer doesn't create space by drawing multiple defenders, he's just kinda there. You're kinda screwed if they don't re-sign, but how is that any different if you get Love in a year or two? That's a risk you have to take and the Lakers clearly aren't worried about it. They know he has to give up an extra year and more money if he wants to walk. Edited August 10, 2012 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) For the Bulls front office apologists: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post...-talks-till-end We were trying! We just have s***ty trade assets! Trade everyone for Dwight other than Rose. That would have been workable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I still hate Dwight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) Boozer isn't exactly Dirk Nowitzki. Anything you lose from the ability to hit maybe 2 mid-range jumpers a game is easily made up on their dunking prowess on pick and rolls, actually finishing if the big slides over to help on Derrick, or their improved finishing in transition. Plus they're guys that actually draw double teams, which would create cutting lanes for Derrick on the kickout. You're kinda screwed if they don't re-sign, but how is that any different if you get Love in a year or two? That's a risk you have to take and the Lakers clearly aren't worried about it. They know he has to give up an extra year and more money if he wants to walk. Loves good friends with Rose, if he comes he's likely to stay IMO. Boozer makes more mid range shots than he does at the rim. Dwight would be nice, there's no denying that, but if it means getting rid of Noah+ and Dwight doesn't come back then I'd just rather have Noah+ and not deal with Dwights drama he's sure to have at the end of the season. Edited August 10, 2012 by 2nd_city_saint787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) Loves good friends with Rose, if he comes he's likely to stay IMO. Boozer makes more mid range shots than he does at the rim. Dwight would be nice, there's no denying that, but if it means getting rid of Noah+ and Dwight doesn't come back then I'd just rather have Noah+ and not deal with Dwights drama he's sure to have at the end of the season. Love may or may not stay, and he's not available right now so it's moot. If you keep waiting for your chances to get studs, you end up losing out while other teams actually do something. Boozer averaged 3 shots made outside of 9 feet last year, and that was the most he had in a while. He's just not a good enough shooter to create significant space for Rose. Edited August 10, 2012 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I think playing into the Lakers hands with howard is he just had back surgery. Is he really gonna turn down a guaranteed extra year to sign elsewhere? I doubt it. Howard is such an awful person, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:54 PM) Love may or may not stay, and he's not available right now so it's moot. If you keep waiting for your chances to get studs, you end up losing out while other teams actually do something. Boozer averaged 3 shots made outside of 9 feet last year, and that was the most he had in a while. He's just not a good enough shooter to create significant space for Rose. I would trade everything not named Rose to get Love on the Bulls, he's such a great fit for the pick and roll with Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) For the Bulls front office apologists: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post...-talks-till-end We were trying! We just have s***ty trade assets! My ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 01:54 PM) Love may or may not stay, and he's not available right now so it's moot. If you keep waiting for your chances to get studs, you end up losing out while other teams actually do something. Boozer averaged 3 shots made outside of 9 feet last year, and that was the most he had in a while. He's just not a good enough shooter to create significant space for Rose. But at the very least Boozer is a threat from mid range. Love is the much better option. I'm also excited to see how much working with Kareem will help Noah....I'd really hate to see that progression on another team, esp if D12 walks. Edited August 10, 2012 by 2nd_city_saint787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) I would trade everything not named Rose to get Love on the Bulls, he's such a great fit for the pick and roll with Rose. He'd be a great fit offensively, but Dwight is a better player and was just traded. The Bulls might be chasing 5 teams by the time Love is actually available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) He'd be a great fit offensively, but Dwight is a better player and was just traded. The Bulls might be chasing 5 teams by the time Love is actually available. Don't worry, there will still be plenty of venom available for the front office when the Bulls fail to land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) He'd be a great fit offensively, but Dwight is a better player and was just traded. The Bulls might be chasing 5 teams by the time Love is actually available. These are the days when I wish Derrick would recruit some of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 07:41 AM) I'll cheer for the Lakers this year. I will too. I just hate the Heat that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Lakers still can't see the Thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) He'd be a great fit offensively, but Dwight is a better player and was just traded. The Bulls might be chasing 5 teams by the time Love is actually available. Unless we can hold onto Taj in the trade, I'd rather have Love/Noah over Dwight/? A Love/Noah/Rose core would be phenomenal. I don't care if Kirk and Butler are the starting 2/3 with them that combo would be really really good. Edited August 10, 2012 by 2nd_city_saint787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) Lakers still can't see the Thunder. We'll see. Lakers are a really bizarre team of personalities to throw together. It's going to be incredibly entertaining if it's spectacularly good or bad. On paper, I"d take the lakers for a year over this years OKC, but it's entirely possible the lakers never mesh/get really bad injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:51 PM) I will too. I just hate the Heat that much. I'd say I'd cheer for hockey, but they might not even be playing then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:55 PM) Unless we can hold onto Taj in the trade, I'd rather have Love/Noah over Dwight/? A Love/Noah/Rose core would be phenomenal. I don't care if Kirk and Butler are the starting 2/3 with them that combo would be really really good. Once again, it's at least 90% certain that Noah would be involved in the trade, higher in Love's case. You have to be able to match salaries, and by the time Minnesota is forced to trade Love, Deng's deal will have expired and Boozer will probably be amnesty'd already. Unless they grossly overpay Taj, Noah would be their only option. Given that Love is a bad defender (while Dwight is a DPOY), that's pretty important. Edited August 10, 2012 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) We'll see. Lakers are a really bizarre team of personalities to throw together. It's going to be incredibly entertaining if it's spectacularly good or bad. On paper, I"d take the lakers for a year over this years OKC, but it's entirely possible the lakers never mesh/get really bad injuries. I think they're just too damn old, even with Dwight. Kobe - 34, Gasol -32, Nash - 38, MWP - 33, Jamison - 36. Their bench is still below average. They'll be good, of course. But give me the Thunder's young legs and another year's experience over LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 11:24 AM) It's hard to put into perspective just how inconsequential the bulls are now. How true pebble in the ocean time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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