iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) So you're actually going to tell me that Viciedo won't ever improve or learn the strike zone and you want him replaced by a guy who has struck out 365 times in 1271 PA's at AAA? At no point have I said anything close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I agree that we haven't always treated him the best, but he absolutely should have been a full-time regular in the MLB in LF this year. Going from RF to LF should not truly constitute a "position change" in the sense that you should expect him to do worse on offense. A lot of players have no problems with hitting regardless of their defensive role, period. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for some of these past position changes, but this year it was just early in the season and he was getting a harsher look from advance scouts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) It's not a personal insult. He's just your latest "defend at all costs" player now that Morel is injured. Â You disregard all your intelligence and logic to defend sone of these guys, for what reason, I don't know. Â Frankly I think it's more insulting to me that I feel obliged to respond to this horses***. You mention Danks as a replacement and say someone ELSE is disregarding intelligence and logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 04:46 PM) It's not a personal insult. He's just your latest "defend at all costs" player now that Morel is injured. Â You disregard all your intelligence and logic to defend sone of these guys, for what reason, I don't know. Â Frankly I think it's more insulting to me that I feel obliged to respond to this horses***. Well, I'm going to drop it here and I think this says plenty right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 1 out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) At no point have I said anything close to that. Except here: Â Â Depends what you got back, obviously. Probably Danks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) You mention Danks as a replacement and say someone ELSE is disregarding intelligence and logic? How does it logically follow that by desiring to trade a player, I also must believe his replacement is somehow better or different? Â Your question was who would then play LF. Not who would be a better player to replace a tank with? Edited July 1, 2012 by iamshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) Except here:Â Â Depends what you got back, obviously. Probably Danks. You have absolutely no ability to analyze debates. Â You do not have a good grasp of the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 2 out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) Well, I'm going to drop it here and I think this says plenty right there. Spare me, Balta. Â How about your lame post telling me Viciedo improved his walk rates in the minors? Â Just because you choose to insult people passive aggressively does not mean it is not an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) How does it logically follow that by desiring to trade a player, I also must believe his replacement is somehow better or different? Give it up. Seriously. Jordan Danks would be playing LF in a pennant race, and you would trade Viciedo to someone who would offer a lot . You don't think he'll ever get better, but you're sure there are teams out there who do. Silly. Edited July 1, 2012 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Tank walks. He's improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) Spare me, Balta. Â How about your lame post telling me Viciedo improved his walk rates in the minors? Â Just because you choose to insult people passive aggressively does not mean it is not an insult. Shack, this is really crossing every personal attack line we have. I'm being gentle here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 2-2 split............................average 1 run a game last 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 WTF are you swinging at? Garbage, absolute garbage. Â Viciedo shows patience at the plate ,so what does Alexai do? Walks right up there and swings at garbage. Â Â perfect, brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:54 PM) Shack, this is really crossing every personal attack line we have. I'm being gentle here. You want to suspend me while simultaneously allowing DA to play with no rules, you go right ahead. Â It is not a personal attack to characterize your post as lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) 2-2 split............................average 1 run a game last 2. The get some offense in the 1st inning, then nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 lol. This thread is awesome. Keep goin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) Spare me, Balta. Â How about your lame post telling me Viciedo improved his walk rates in the minors? Â Just because you choose to insult people passive aggressively does not mean it is not an insult. Â Viciedo...did....improve his walk rate in the minors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:54 PM) Shack, this is really crossing every personal attack line we have. I'm being gentle here. Â What, you can't call any of your posts lame? Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) Give it up. Seriously. Jordan Danks would be playing LF in a pennant race, and you would trade Viciedo to someone who would offer a lot . You don't think he'll ever get better, but you're sure there are teams out there who do. Silly. Honestly, DA, you ask one question, which I answer, and you then run with it under a completely different premise. I don't know if you do it purposefully or not, but for someone who runs around digging up posts to quote all the time, it's pretty damn weak. Â Take Balta's example: Â If we got Hamels back, he would clearly not play LF for us on days he didn't pitch. Does that mean that is the reason not to make that trade? Edited July 1, 2012 by iamshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) You want to suspend me while simultaneously allowing DA to play with no rules, you go right ahead. It is not a personal attack to characterize your post as lame.  Agreed. Not even worth the warning. Edited July 1, 2012 by Marty34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:57 PM) Viciedo...did....improve his walk rate in the minors Yeah, and go back and read it in context...because I was clearly TALKING ABOUT THE MAJOR LEAGUES. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Gavin well on his way to another under.500 season record what new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 All this arguing about Viciedo, has anyone noticed we just lost the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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