CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Brewers shopping Frankie Rodriquez if willing to eat the $4mill. remaining on his contract. He was just named the closer perhaps to showcase him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:13 AM) Brewers shopping Frankie Rodriquez if willing to eat the $4mill. remaining on his contract. He was just named the closer perhaps to showcase him. It looks nice and all and could be a great addition of course... He also has a 1.4 WHIP over the past two years. Reed is at 1.2 for the year. Bring him in to close for us the rest of the way, slide Reed to the setup role, have Crain as the second righty, Thornton as your first lefty... Sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Reed's done a very good job as a rookie, so far. He definitely hasn't pitched poorly enough to have the job taken away from him. I would look at KW in the 6th-7th inning Jason Frasor role, basically reinforce or replace Nathan Jones and push him further down in the pecking order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 03:50 AM) Reed's done a very good job as a rookie, so far. He definitely hasn't pitched poorly enough to have the job taken away from him. I would look at KW in the 6th-7th inning Jason Frasor role, basically reinforce or replace Nathan Jones and push him further down in the pecking order. I know his era is a bit high but I think Omogrosso is going to be a solid bp arm the rest of the way, probably moreso than Jones. Assuming the cost is right another vet arm plus addition of Crain would make our bullpen look very pretty though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 03:50 AM) Reed's done a very good job as a rookie, so far. He definitely hasn't pitched poorly enough to have the job taken away from him. I would look at KW in the 6th-7th inning Jason Frasor role, basically reinforce or replace Nathan Jones and push him further down in the pecking order. i would feel a lot more comfortable with someone like krod or putz, that are capable of pitching in the 8th or 9th. what if reed does falter or crain gets hurt? then we would be looking at crain or thornton in the 9th and jones/frasor in the 8th and i wouldnt trust either of those two against miggy in the 8th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 10:09 PM) Johan Santana? No idea, probably someone from their bullpen, veteran reliever, but don't follow the Mets closely so no idea. 2012 33 New York Mets $24,000,000 2013 34 New York Mets $25,500,000 2014 35 New York Mets *$25,000,000 $25M Team Option, $5.5M Buyout Option becomes player option if criteria is met relating to Cy Young finishes and 2011-2013 innings pitched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 11:25 PM) I'd like Tim Byrdak actually. Very effective LOOGY type guy. Been around awhile and from my hometown of Lockport. I think there was rumors that we were trying to sign him a couple of years ago, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:50 AM) Reed's done a very good job as a rookie, so far. He definitely hasn't pitched poorly enough to have the job taken away from him. I would look at KW in the 6th-7th inning Jason Frasor role, basically reinforce or replace Nathan Jones and push him further down in the pecking order. Darren Oliver is supposedly someone the Jays would look at moving. He's been tremendous the past 5 or 6 years and is having a great season. 8.8 K/9 2.3BB/9, ERA under 3 each of the past 5 years- 1.30 this year. Effective against both RHB and LHB's. Not sure about value, but he's a mid to late innings guy, can't imagine he'd command a top prospect or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) White Sox scouts were at the Cubs game last night looking at Sanchez and will be there again tonight to scout Johnson. I hope we don't make a trade for Johnson, his velocity has been falling this year. Edited July 18, 2012 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:58 AM) White Sox scouts were at the Cubs game last night looking at Sanchez and will be there again tonight to scout Johnson. I hope we don't make a trade for Johnson, his velocity has been falling this year. Josh Johnson? He's an intriguing name, although the injury concerns are scary. Glad to see the Sox are exploring all options and trying to make the best deal and not just overpay for their favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'd love to see Hunter Pence on the Sox. Phillies are open to trading him. Also see the Marlins are listening to offers for Stanton and Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/detroit...pitching-071712 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Yesterday, Josh Norris tweeted that the White Sox have had scouts at Dellin Betances‘ last three starts for Trenton. He then stated that a source told him that Chicago has “zeroed in” on the big hurler. Betances has been one of the Yankees’ top prospects the last few years, but he has always struggled with his consistency. After going 3-5 with a 6.39 ERA and 5.88 FIP in 16 starts with Empire State, the Yankees finally sent Betances back to Trenton, where he is looking a lot more confident. In Triple-A, Betances was averaging 8.32 BB/9 while picking up 8.56 K/9. In his first three games back in Double-A he has cut his walks way down (3.38 BB/9) while continuing to strike out batters (9.64 K/9). Norris had no insight into who the White Sox would be willing to give up for Betances, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees were willing to part with him for the right deal. Could this be the end of another Killer B in Pinstripes? Update (Brien): My general rule on this sort of thing is that anytime a reporter the caliber of Norris is being told that there’s serious interest in a player from a team, there’s at least a decent chance something will happen. That said, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for news of a deal between the Yankees and White Sox this year. Like Tamar, I would think the Yankees would be pretty eager to part with Betances in the right deal these days, but looking at the White Sox roster, there just aren’t any obvious fits for a deal between the two teams. From the Yankees’ perspective, getting Matt Thornton or A.J. Pierzynski would be ideal, but neither of those two names are even going to be on the table with the Chi Sox in the thick of the pennant race. As far as a prospect-for-prospect swap, the White Sox system is pretty bare at the moment, but I suppose it’s possible there are some guys there that the Yankees’ scouts are high on and would be willing to swap Betances for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (That funky motion @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) Yesterday, Josh Norris tweeted that the White Sox have had scouts at Dellin Betances‘ last three starts for Trenton. He then stated that a source told him that Chicago has “zeroed in” on the big hurler. Betances has been one of the Yankees’ top prospects the last few years, but he has always struggled with his consistency. After going 3-5 with a 6.39 ERA and 5.88 FIP in 16 starts with Empire State, the Yankees finally sent Betances back to Trenton, where he is looking a lot more confident. In Triple-A, Betances was averaging 8.32 BB/9 while picking up 8.56 K/9. In his first three games back in Double-A he has cut his walks way down (3.38 BB/9) while continuing to strike out batters (9.64 K/9). Norris had no insight into who the White Sox would be willing to give up for Betances, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees were willing to part with him for the right deal. Could this be the end of another Killer B in Pinstripes? Update (Brien): My general rule on this sort of thing is that anytime a reporter the caliber of Norris is being told that there’s serious interest in a player from a team, there’s at least a decent chance something will happen. That said, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for news of a deal between the Yankees and White Sox this year. Like Tamar, I would think the Yankees would be pretty eager to part with Betances in the right deal these days, but looking at the White Sox roster, there just aren’t any obvious fits for a deal between the two teams. From the Yankees’ perspective, getting Matt Thornton or A.J. Pierzynski would be ideal, but neither of those two names are even going to be on the table with the Chi Sox in the thick of the pennant race. As far as a prospect-for-prospect swap, the White Sox system is pretty bare at the moment, but I suppose it’s possible there are some guys there that the Yankees’ scouts are high on and would be willing to swap Betances for. He just sounds like a Cooper reclamation project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) I hope we make trades for Liriano, Putz and Oliver Edited July 18, 2012 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) I hope we make trades for Liriano, Putz and Oliver I think KW would be considered a master thief if all of this happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I think KW would be considered a master thief if all of this happened I don't think it would take much to get Putz or Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (That funky motion @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) Yesterday, Josh Norris tweeted that the White Sox have had scouts at Dellin Betances‘ last three starts for Trenton. He then stated that a source told him that Chicago has “zeroed in” on the big hurler. Betances has been one of the Yankees’ top prospects the last few years, but he has always struggled with his consistency. After going 3-5 with a 6.39 ERA and 5.88 FIP in 16 starts with Empire State, the Yankees finally sent Betances back to Trenton, where he is looking a lot more confident. In Triple-A, Betances was averaging 8.32 BB/9 while picking up 8.56 K/9. In his first three games back in Double-A he has cut his walks way down (3.38 BB/9) while continuing to strike out batters (9.64 K/9). Norris had no insight into who the White Sox would be willing to give up for Betances, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees were willing to part with him for the right deal. Could this be the end of another Killer B in Pinstripes? Update (Brien): My general rule on this sort of thing is that anytime a reporter the caliber of Norris is being told that there’s serious interest in a player from a team, there’s at least a decent chance something will happen. That said, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for news of a deal between the Yankees and White Sox this year. Like Tamar, I would think the Yankees would be pretty eager to part with Betances in the right deal these days, but looking at the White Sox roster, there just aren’t any obvious fits for a deal between the two teams. From the Yankees’ perspective, getting Matt Thornton or A.J. Pierzynski would be ideal, but neither of those two names are even going to be on the table with the Chi Sox in the thick of the pennant race. As far as a prospect-for-prospect swap, the White Sox system is pretty bare at the moment, but I suppose it’s possible there are some guys there that the Yankees’ scouts are high on and would be willing to swap Betances for. In a heartbeat, Thornton + prospect for Betances. Turn around and trade for someone like Darren Oliver to replace Matt. Plus, that gives us some payroll flexibility jettisoning Thornton's salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 In a heartbeat, Thornton + prospect for Betances. Turn around and trade for someone like Darren Oliver to replace Matt. Plus, that gives us some payroll flexibility jettisoning Thornton's salary. I love your idea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 In a heartbeat, Thornton + prospect for Betances. Turn around and trade for someone like Darren Oliver to replace Matt. Plus, that gives us some payroll flexibility jettisoning Thornton's salary. I'd love to have several Yankees prospects. Mason Williams is going to be awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Pierre has been getting on base against RH'ers in 2012 much better than Viciedo. At the very least, he'd be a cheap insurance policy. That OBP difference is countered by Viciedo having more HR, more RBI, and having a much better arm in LF. Viciedo is also a young talent who is improving and you're risking stunting his growth by platooning him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 11:17 AM) I think KW would be considered a master thief if all of this happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Why would we want Betances? To pitch in the MLB this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Why would we want Betances? To pitch in the MLB this year? Betances is a lot better than some relievers we have in the pen now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 11:46 AM) Trading offense for pitching seems counterproductive to me...its like plugging one hole and creating another, isn't it? We cant afford to lose anybody from our line up now Depends on magnitude. Trading 0.5-1.0 wins of offense + prospects for 2-3 wins of pitching will make a difference. But no, shuffling some offensive value for similar pitching value probably won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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