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In other news, Sergio Santos underwent season ending shoulder surgery. Listening to the Jays pregame announcers, Greg Zaun was saying how it is quite likely that the WhiteSox were aware of the redflags associated with Santos (injury/mechanics) resulting in them just unloading him for "just" Nestor Molina. Even as much as we enjoyed having Santos with the Sox, it was quite evident that his slider would one day give him arm problems.

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QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 12:38 PM)
In other news, Sergio Santos underwent season ending shoulder surgery. Listening to the Jays pregame announcers, Greg Zaun was saying how it is quite likely that the WhiteSox were aware of the redflags associated with Santos (injury/mechanics) resulting in them just unloading him for "just" Nestor Molina. Even as much as we enjoyed having Santos with the Sox, it was quite evident that his slider would one day give him arm problems.

 

That's a shame, I was rooting for Sergio.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 11:38 AM)
The fountains of "the K" spew the urine of the White Sox bullpen.

 

 

Good thing Harrelson doesn't have to do a Mariners game at KC or we'd probably have something else spewing out of fountains and it wouldn't be pretty.

 

 

 

Oh, and Austin Jackson is darned good. Take Granderson out of Yankee Stadium and his numbers aren't so glowing. Overall, Austin's become the better all-around player. Sorry Phil Rogers.

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QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 12:38 PM)
In other news, Sergio Santos underwent season ending shoulder surgery. Listening to the Jays pregame announcers, Greg Zaun was saying how it is quite likely that the WhiteSox were aware of the redflags associated with Santos (injury/mechanics) resulting in them just unloading him for "just" Nestor Molina. Even as much as we enjoyed having Santos with the Sox, it was quite evident that his slider would one day give him arm problems.

 

The Blue Jays had access to his medical records prior to the trade. He had to take a physical to complete the trade. And Nestor Molina hasnt exactly been a picture of health, either.

 

 

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 12:41 PM)
Good thing Harrelson doesn't have to do a Mariners game at KC or we'd probably have something else spewing out of fountains and it wouldn't be pretty.

 

 

 

Oh, and Austin Jackson is darned good. Take Granderson out of Yankee Stadium and his numbers aren't so glowing. Overall, Austin's become the better all-around player. Sorry Phil Rogers.

 

That is quite a debatable "fact" that you are posting. Granderson has been a monster power and RBI wise since he put on a Yankee uniform, and plays a pretty damn good outfielder still. Austin Jackson is very good, but Im not ready to say he is that much better at this point in their careers.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 01:43 PM)
The Blue Jays had access to his medical records prior to the trade. He had to take a physical to complete the trade. And Nestor Molina hasnt exactly been a picture of health, either.

 

Well sure Jays had the medical records and made him undergo a physical but the timing of when the trade went down raised question marks. Especially when the Sox just signed to him to a very club-friendly contract for a closer prior to the trade.

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Jackson with a 945 OPS

 

Granderson at 865 OPS

 

 

Jackson's a better defender and can steal more bags (granted, Curtis isn't asked to do that for the Yankees but was never a great pure base-stealer) and he plays half his games in one of the toughest hitter's parks in baseball. Yankee Stadium has made Johnny Damon and Swisher and Granderson look like studs. If Granderson was hitting a ton of homers outside of NYC or to CF and LF, then I'd be more impressed.

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QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 12:51 PM)
Well sure Jays had the medical records and made him undergo a physical but the timing of when the trade went down raised question marks. Especially when the Sox just signed to him to a very club-friendly contract for a closer prior to the trade.

 

 

Though Santos was named the closer upon his arrival here, his role in 2013 – whenever he might be ready – will likely be quite different. The injury is another blemish on GM Alex Anthopoulos‘ track record in bullpen pitcher acquisitions, though this one might have been a bit out of his control. I imagine the team would have done their due diligence on Santos and came back with a clean-enough bill of health. Still, the question will inevitably come up at some point – did the team know it was receiving what essentially amounted to damaged goods?

 

Santos did not have any significant injuries during his years with the White Sox, and it’s not as though the Blue Jays gave up a ton to acquire him; so all things considered, perhaps you could argue it was a calculated risk worth taking. Should Santos be able to return in 2013 with his ability fully intact, the Blue Jays will add a dynamite strikeout artist to their bullpen under team control through 2015 – so this wasn’t quite the miss that previous acquisitions (like Jon Rauch) were.

 

At least Darren Oliver turned out well, yes?

 

 

 

Orioles have a spot starter going for Hammel (out 4-6 weeks, surgery) against Verlander...so odds of winning this game for BALT, about 5-10%.

 

About to be 2-0 Tiggers.

 

 

 

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 01:59 PM)
Though Santos was named the closer upon his arrival here, his role in 2013 – whenever he might be ready – will likely be quite different. The injury is another blemish on GM Alex Anthopoulos‘ track record in bullpen pitcher acquisitions, though this one might have been a bit out of his control. I imagine the team would have done their due diligence on Santos and came back with a clean-enough bill of health. Still, the question will inevitably come up at some point – did the team know it was receiving what essentially amounted to damaged goods?

 

Santos did not have any significant injuries during his years with the White Sox, and it’s not as though the Blue Jays gave up a ton to acquire him; so all things considered, perhaps you could argue it was a calculated risk worth taking. Should Santos be able to return in 2013 with his ability fully intact, the Blue Jays will add a dynamite strikeout artist to their bullpen under team control through 2015 – so this wasn’t quite the miss that previous acquisitions (like Jon Rauch) were.

 

At least Darren Oliver turned out well, yes?

 

 

 

Orioles have a spot starter going for Hammel (out 4-6 weeks, surgery) against Verlander...so odds of winning this game for BALT, about 5-10%.

 

About to be 2-0 Tiggers.

 

 

 

http://www.rantsports.com

 

Atleast Cleveland is about to get a big beating, 3-0 with bases juiced still

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 12:55 PM)
Jackson with a 945 OPS

 

Granderson at 865 OPS

 

 

Jackson's a better defender and can steal more bags (granted, Curtis isn't asked to do that for the Yankees but was never a great pure base-stealer) and he plays half his games in one of the toughest hitter's parks in baseball. Yankee Stadium has made Johnny Damon and Swisher and Granderson look like studs. If Granderson was hitting a ton of homers outside of NYC or to CF and LF, then I'd be more impressed.

 

Curtis Granderson has also played in 21 more games this season. If jackson could stay off the DL, I would be more impressed

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 12:08 PM)
Curtis Granderson has also played in 21 more games this season. If jackson could stay off the DL, I would be more impressed

 

 

That actually worked out perfectly (so far) for them. They figured out what they had in Berry, when nobody expected much. He has been huge for them.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 01:10 PM)
That actually worked out perfectly (so far) for them. They figured out what they had in Berry, when nobody expected much. He has been huge for them.

 

Losing their lead off hitter for a month is probably not what the Tigers would consider "working out perfectly"

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