southsideirish71 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:35 PM) This is his first year. Give the man a break. Its not like the bullpen has a bunch of AAA players in it or anything. So Matt Thornton wasn't a viable option. In a 1-1 game you start either your left handed experienced relief guy, or a guy who might have a hard time hitting a brick wall with his fastball. Its not rocket science with this one. We have a rested bullpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I would have rather had Will Ohman in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 02:36 AM) How so? OUr last manager loses that series at KC for sure. The ump closing his strike zone didnt help there but I'm sure there is a reason he trotted out septimo instead of someone else. Seems like frustration at the scoreboard makes alot of opinions sway towards the overreaction zone. Terrible use of Axelrod in last game before the ASB, using the much slower Hudson to pr instead of Danks/Escobar, and the absolutely terrible decision of leaving Peavy in way too long on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Matt Thornton has to be either hurt or tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 09:35 PM) Just what was Ventura saving Thornton for? The bottom of the order with all righties? Well, perhaps Robin thought (stupid I know) that Septimo could actually get his chit together and we may need Matt for later. I am sorry, but at some point the player has to be called out on things. I have no real issue with this other than the fact I don't want to see Septimo again in a White Sox uniform. Now that Robin knows this guy sucks, don't ever use him in a close game again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:35 PM) Just what was Ventura saving Thornton for? The bottom of the order with all righties? Maybe the 9th if it was tied. Who knows, if he brought him out and he got hit around you would be all over that decision too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Does Gonzalez have 3 of his 7 HRs against us this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) So Matt Thornton wasn't a viable option. In a 1-1 game you start either your left handed experienced relief guy, or a guy who might have a hard time hitting a brick wall with his fastball. Its not rocket science with this one. We have a rested bullpen. Never said that at all.This was a bad decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Latroy Hawkins is still n the league? Wow wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) He left a guy who is our lefty specialist in against 3 lefties and everyone is screaming bloody murder lol.... the fault isn't on Robin it's on Septimo who needs to be demoted. Lol...he needs to be demoted? Overreact much? Also, Robin is the one to blame. Septimo told the world he didn't have it this inning by walking the first two batters. Robin should have listened and taken him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 02:38 AM) Maybe the 9th if it was tied. Who knows, if he brought him out and he got hit around you would be all over that decision too. So you're saving Thornton for a 9th inning with all righties up? If the Red Sox had a lineup full of lefties, then I understand you saving him. However, the 8th inning was clearly the trouble inning, and you hate losing without your best option on the mound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) Terrible use of Axelrod in last game before the ASB, using the much slower Hudson to pr instead of Danks/Escobar, and the absolutely terrible decision of leaving Peavy in way too long on Saturday. LOL, I have no issue with any of those and I thought he managed us probably the other two wins in that series. Funny how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Apparently Nate Jones is starting to crap himself now. Been like that the last few times he has been out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) Maybe the 9th if it was tied. Who knows, if he brought him out and he got hit around you would be all over that decision too. Rock, its the 8th inning in a tie game with Ortiz in the middle of it. Its not a reach that Matt should of started that inning over a rookie who has a hard time throwing strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:40 PM) So you're saving Thornton for a 9th inning with all righties up? If the Red Sox had a lineup full of lefties, then I understand you saving him. However, the 8th inning was clearly the trouble inning, and you hate losing without your best option on the mound. Who knows, his f***ing forearm could be tight. Hindsight is awesome and all but Septimo got squeezed and gave up a bomb to one of the best hitters in the game. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The real question is why is a rookie who has VERY questionable control on this roster? Kenny shouldnt have let it get this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgaughan09 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) I would have rather had Will Ohman in there Let's not get too crazy, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 One thing we can all agree on is that KW needs to act now about the bullpen, as he can't sit around until the deadline and hope the inexperienced bullpen survive during a very tough stretch of games. Especially given the starting pitching injuries, the bullpen is going to be used a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:40 PM) Rock, its the 8th inning in a tie game with Ortiz in the middle of it. Its not a reach that Matt should of started that inning over a rookie who has a hard time throwing strikes. Hey I agree we should win every single game. I bet he looks back on it and thinks that same thing. We dont even know if he was available at that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 02:41 AM) Who knows, his f***ing forearm could be tight. Hindsight is awesome and all but Septimo got squeezed and gave up a bomb to one of the best hitters in the game. It happens. We all said this is assuming Thornton is healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) He left a guy who is our lefty specialist in against 3 lefties and everyone is screaming bloody murder lol.... the fault isn't on Robin it's on Septimo who needs to be demoted. Agreed. For all we know they are trying to decide about dealing Thornton (Yankees rumor.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yay rookie bullpens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Bad inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 09:41 PM) Who knows, his f***ing forearm could be tight. Hindsight is awesome and all but Septimo got squeezed and gave up a bomb to one of the best hitters in the game. It happens. Everyone is smart after the fact, hey? Bottom line is Septimo needs to go back to the farm. The bashing of the manager is just ridiculous. Lets get Ozzie back... Everyone is so phucking smart. If Septimo actually...pitches like he belongs in the majors and got through that inning wonder if people would be going, "Robin sucks...we're lucky we got them out because Septimo was wild and I can't believe he didn't give up a 3 run homer to Adrian Gonzalez." BTW---we have ONE RUN tonight...that's not gonna win you many baseball games no matter how well you pitch and even Whitey Herzog couldn't do much with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Trumbo homer, 7-6 Tigers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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