greg775 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 03:45 PM) Nobody knew what his hair color was until he surrendered to the cops. If my 6-year old kid gets shot, I'm staying with him/her or trying to get him/her away from the scene or some help. I'm not morphing into the incredible hulk to chase down some guy with that type of firepower. I pray you are never victim of a horrendous crime if you've never been held up. There can be intense rage. If you witnessed murder on that night, who knows how you'd react? This guy was crazy enough to do what he did. A victim might just flake out as well and want to punish this lowest form of human being. I take pleasure in knowing this man will rot in a cell 23 of 24 hours of a day the rest of his life. I'm OK now with him not getting the death penalty. Solitary confinement for a nerd like this who prolly lives on the computer will be awesome. Edited July 24, 2012 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) I pray you are never victim of a horrendous crime if you've never been held up. There can be intense rage. If you witnessed murder on that night, who knows how you'd react? This guy was crazy enough to do what he did. A victim might just flake out as well and want to punish this lowest form of human being. I take pleasure in knowing this man will rot in a cell 23 of 24 hours of a day the rest of his life. I'm OK now with him not getting the death penalty. Solitary confinement for a nerd like this who prolly lives on the computer will be awesome. You're not feeling any rage at that moment. Your main objective is to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) You're not feeling any rage at that moment. Your main objective is to survive. If your whole life is your 6 year old daughter and she is dead and you have a chance to get at the piece of s*** who ruined her life and your life, you might risk your own life to beat the tar out of the perpetrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 10:56 AM) If your whole life is your 6 year old daughter and she is dead and you have a chance to get at the piece of s*** who ruined her life and your life, you might risk your own life to beat the tar out of the perpetrator. oh my goodness. greg, have you seen or read any of the witness statements? They all wanted to GET THE f*** OUT. Not get the f*** out and then chase a guy that had just sprayed the place with gunfire. This was a full-blown military-type style assault. You're in a ways criticizing the survivors for not going after the guy (despite the fact the cops were on the scene very quickly anyway). Edited July 24, 2012 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 10:23 AM) I agree with your second paragraph. Besides if I just beat the s*** out of the low-life punk like a regular bar fight in which one guy pummels the crap out of another, what is the most I could get? I mean I'm beating the hell out of a guy who just killed 12 people and put my life in danger when I was in the theatre. It'd take an OJ jury or Casey Anthony jury to put me away for beating up such a lowlife punk. Wouldn't police applaud me for beating the piss out of such a coward? You can't agree with only one paragraph. Both are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 10:41 AM) I wish you hadn't told us you were a cop. Suddenly I'm scared of you. Police frighten me, even friendly ones. Police frighten you, but you want to know if it is OK to shoot a guy who is just standing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 12:02 PM) Police frighten you, but you want to know if it is OK to shoot a guy who is just standing there? Or beat him to death with his hands or a bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) Or beat him to death with his hands or a bat. The thread should end right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Luckily, Greg wasn't close to field or he might have attacked Mr. Cub after the Konerko beaning and we would have had another Ligue Jr. incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 04:01 PM) oh my goodness. greg, have you seen or read any of the witness statements? They all wanted to GET THE f*** OUT. Not get the f*** out and then chase a guy that had just sprayed the place with gunfire. This was a full-blown military-type style assault. You're in a ways criticizing the survivors for not going after the guy (despite the fact the cops were on the scene very quickly anyway). I am filled with rage for this guy. I want to beat the hell out of him. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I for one do not take the worst massacre of this kind lightly. I am still furious and full of rage at this piece of s***. Sorry if you guys do not have the same level of anger as I do. QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 05:32 PM) Luckily, Greg wasn't close to field or he might have attacked Mr. Cub after the Konerko beaning and we would have had another Ligue Jr. incident. That also angered me as I felt they purposely hit Paulie in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This is yet another heightened story that falls under Occam's razor IMO (which basically says that when deciding between two possibilities, the one which is simplest or requires the least amount of assumptions, is most likely the true explanation in your mind). Just waaaaaaay too many questions I have about it...but yet everyone is just dismissing it as an Honor's student that went berserk and went on a killing spree due to the ease and availability of weapons. So when the credits were starting he had enough time to prop open a one way unlocking door, dress complete from head to toe in kevlar and reenter. I'd like to hear more of the timeline personally. Also heard people interviewed who were there they thought there was more than one person. I'd also like learn more about tracing the money for him to purchase around probably all these weapons and gear (not cheap by any means). Just tons of questions. And yet the irony of this taking place just a week or so before a vote on the UN Arms Treaty...I'm really not buying this crap and dismissing this as this type of person with no real history of anything goes on a killing rampage to this extent and in the manor to which he carried it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The simple story is a lone gunman who went crazy, not a big conspiracy over a UN treaty vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Greg, I'm guessing you've never stared down a guy who's likely packing. It's not exactly a moment where you feel in control and ready to hulk out. Even though I'm from this coddled generation, I've had that. And a gun scare at my high school. Got followed in school (without being told) by a vice principal because they were pretty sure I was going to get assaulted amidst racial tensions in the town (black superintendent stole district funds, my dad was school board pres.) But yeah, that first example was when a gang threatened to shoot up my friend's house because of s*** his brother did. I had a baseball and a few sharp rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Gives new meaning to "Chicago Tough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:16 PM) This is yet another heightened story that falls under Occam's razor IMO (which basically says that when deciding between two possibilities, the one which is simplest or requires the least amount of assumptions, is most likely the true explanation in your mind). Just waaaaaaay too many questions I have about it...but yet everyone is just dismissing it as an Honor's student that went berserk and went on a killing spree due to the ease and availability of weapons. So when the credits were starting he had enough time to prop open a one way unlocking door, dress complete from head to toe in kevlar and reenter. I'd like to hear more of the timeline personally. Also heard people interviewed who were there they thought there was more than one person. I'd also like learn more about tracing the money for him to purchase around probably all these weapons and gear (not cheap by any means). Just tons of questions. And yet the irony of this taking place just a week or so before a vote on the UN Arms Treaty...I'm really not buying this crap and dismissing this as this type of person with no real history of anything goes on a killing rampage to this extent and in the manor to which he carried it out. Interesting theories. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) Greg, I'm guessing you've never stared down a guy who's likely packing. It's not exactly a moment where you feel in control and ready to hulk out. Even though I'm from this coddled generation, I've had that. And a gun scare at my high school. Got followed in school (without being told) by a vice principal because they were pretty sure I was going to get assaulted amidst racial tensions in the town (black superintendent stole district funds, my dad was school board pres.) But yeah, that first example was when a gang threatened to shoot up my friend's house because of s*** his brother did. I had a baseball and a few sharp rocks. Wow u are bad to the bone. Just kidding. That's serious stuff. Glad you were safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 04:21 PM) The simple story is a lone gunman who went crazy, not a big conspiracy over a UN treaty vote. Did you ever dig into the Norway shootings? I'm guessing you think Lee Harvey shot Kennedy too?...like I said Occam's razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 06:08 PM) Interesting theories. Wow u are bad to the bone. Just kidding. That's serious stuff. Glad you were safe. It was a rather scary moment. Fortunately the guy that came by was bluffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Christian Bale is awesome Edited July 25, 2012 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:18 PM) Did you ever dig into the Norway shootings? I'm guessing you think Lee Harvey shot Kennedy too?...like I said Occam's razor. Yes, Occam's razor, exactly. One person deciding to go on a killing spree is much, much, much more simple than a government conspiracy involving many people. The same is true with the Norway shootings, JFK's assassination, 9/11, the London bombings and all sorts of other conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I am travelling the backcountry of Wyoming and Colorado, writing this from the porch of a cabin in Colorado Springs. There is a really surreal element of emerging from the woods and seeing the US Flag at half staff. The lump in my throat as I asked someone what happened made it difficult to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Did you guys see that item on TMZ where the orange haired guy was playing dumb in jail, asking the guards why he was there? A guard said the guards were all laughing at him saying they didn't believe his act. Also the orange haired bastard was complaining about the food. LOL. I hope reality is settling in to the spoiled punk that his life is OVA as he knew it. No more nice dinners; no more fast food when you need a Taco Bell fix. No more sex with women. The man is 24. Think of all the things he's given up for his stupid little 10-minute killing rampage. Ha ... get used to the lousy food, Mr. Orange Haired Asshole. The televised court hearings should be funny in the future as he does weird stuff trying to convince everybody he's insane. Ha. Lawyers should be ashamed of themselves if that's the behavior they condone trying to escape the death penalty. I'm starting to hope he just gets life in jail. This guy is 24 and it'll dawn on him pretty damn soon the things he gave up for his cowardly act of violence. Edited July 27, 2012 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 02:02 PM) No more sex with women. I don't think he'll have any sex if he's my in solitary confinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) I don't think he'll have any sex if he's my in solitary confinement. He'll end up in general population at some point in his life. It's a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (G&T @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 09:32 PM) He'll end up in general population at some point in his life. It's a long time. If he's in a mental hospital he'll be with other patients, right? I mean they don't have solitary confinement in a hospital do they? Knowing the pussification of America, I am pretty positive he'll be ruled insane by the latest failure of a jury. It's the old argument, "You'd have to be insane to do what he did." I wonder if he'll even confide in his parents that he is sly as a fox and knows what he did and why he did it. Edited July 27, 2012 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) If he's in a mental hospital he'll be with other patients, right? I mean they don't have solitary confinement in a hospital do they? Knowing the pussification of America, I am pretty positive he'll be ruled insane by the latest failure of a jury. It's the old argument, "You'd have to be insane to do what he did." I wonder if he'll even confide in his parents that he is sly as a fox and knows what he did and why he did it. That's not what legal insanity is. Legal insanity questions the actor's ability to understand that the conduct is criminal. Usually it is reserved for cases where someone actually believes that they are doing something right when they commit the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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