mgaughan09 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 05:47 PM) Not to worried about these two. Sanchez is a NL pitcher. Infante is nothing special Yep. I would have welcomed Sanchez, but well see how he does in the AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) I agree...and Haren came back last night and pitched against the Rangers. Is supposedly pain-free. Yep. He looked good last night too. I'm waiting another start or two to see if he holds up, but when he's healthy, he's a real legit front of the rotation starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) Angels have the best record in baseball since the end of April. They are playing fantastically and just took 2 out of 3 from the Rangers. From a rotation perspective, CJ Wilson and Weaver have been money. Haren should be back shortly. There offense is better (Trumbo, Trout, and Pujols is sick). They also are playing with no legit catcher (until Stewart comes backs) and have one of the best bullpen era's in baseball. Angels are also very very strong defensively. Tigers have a similar rotation, well, until Haren comes back. Haren/Weaver/Wilson is very strong from a post-season perspective. Tigers don't have anything close to that strong that they can throw out in the playoffs and there pen is not near as good either. Tigers aren't that good of a team. They are a playoff contender who people overrated because they signed Prince (and didn't realize how much they played above their talent a year ago). I won't be surprised if they make the playoffs, but they aren't near as good as the upper echelon teams in the majors, imo. The Tigers are playing great baseball now too. I'm not sure how they aren't that good. They have the best 1/3/4 hitter combo in baseball. They also have the best #1 pitcher of any team in the playoff hunt for the AL. They have a lot of other great pieces fitting behind all of those players. Their rotation is as tough 1-5 as any team in all of baseball, plus a very good end of the pen. The weakness they have out there is their early pen guys. With that rotation, they can hide those guys pretty nicely, like the Sox did early this year when their rotation was pitching well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) What's the deal with Haren this year? Velocity seems down. And yes, I do agree the Angels are the best team in the majors. Haren had a back injury he was quiet about. Finally went on the DL to let it heal. It was really impacting his stuff. Came back yesterday and looked significantly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:08 PM) What's the deal with Haren this year? Velocity seems down. And yes, I do agree the Angels are the best team in the majors. Add me to that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) If I were the Tigers, I would not have given up on a guy like Turner this early. I am happy to see them dumping young pitching. Hopefully he turns into their Dan Hudson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) The Tigers are playing great baseball now too. I'm not sure how they aren't that good. They have the best 1/3/4 hitter combo in baseball. They also have the best #1 pitcher of any team in the playoff hunt for the AL. They have a lot of other great pieces fitting behind all of those players. Their rotation is as tough 1-5 as any team in all of baseball, plus a very good end of the pen. The weakness they have out there is their early pen guys. With that rotation, they can hide those guys pretty nicely, like the Sox did early this year when their rotation was pitching well. Tigers are playing great, for 2 weeks. They may keep it up, they may not. I fully expect them to have there struggles and I think the Sox have the talent to stay in contention. I think the Sox might actually be better, however, they aren't heatlhy, so right now, the Tigers are the better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) Add me to that list. And they might only get one playoff game. Highly unlikely that they catch Texas, who is incredibly complete as well. Albeit, losing Lewis is a big blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 11:11 PM) The Tigers are playing great baseball now too. I'm not sure how they aren't that good. They have the best 1/3/4 hitter combo in baseball. They also have the best #1 pitcher of any team in the playoff hunt for the AL. They have a lot of other great pieces fitting behind all of those players. Their rotation is as tough 1-5 as any team in all of baseball, plus a very good end of the pen. The weakness they have out there is their early pen guys. With that rotation, they can hide those guys pretty nicely, like the Sox did early this year when their rotation was pitching well. Hawk and Stone said this yesterday, but Villareal and Below have been outstanding for them this year. It looks like they finally got their bullpen figured out by getting rid of terrible pitchers like Balester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Better than them getting James Shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:12 PM) I am happy to see them dumping young pitching. Hopefully he turns into their Dan Hudson. Another thought here, hopefully the deals for Youk and Myers forced the Tigers to pay up here. If so, win for Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 When they got Cabrera, Andruw Miller didn't turn out to be anything like advertised. And it took Maybin four or five years and a change of scenery to finally become a really solid everyday player. Castellanos and the RF they just promoted to AA ("the next Miguel Cabrera") are the two guys they didn't want to part with, and they accomplished the improvement of their team without parting with either one. Not only that, they somehow qualified for a compensation pick (after the 2nd round) and were able to throw that into the package...whereas the Rays didn't even get one at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 05:15 PM) Thats what I was wondering Keep that avatar. Totally awesome movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) Tigers are playing great, for 2 weeks. They may keep it up, they may not. I fully expect them to have there struggles and I think the Sox have the talent to stay in contention. I think the Sox might actually be better, however, they aren't heatlhy, so right now, the Tigers are the better team. I'll take the Tigers over the Sox in a must win situation anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 No need to make any more moves. I'm more worried about the handling of Sale and Quintana. Which can put us back 3years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Haven't heard a peep about the innings watch from Kenny, Ventura, and Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:19 PM) I'll take the Tigers over the Sox in a must win situation anyday. Considering they just swept our asses, I can't argue with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:24 PM) Haven't heard a peep about the innings watch from Kenny, Ventura, and Cooper. And you won't. Now that Ozzie is gone, those things aren't advertised anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Is Martinez still expected to be back this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 08:04 PM) Is Martinez still expected to be back this season? They're hopeful of a return before the regular season is done, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Best part about this is Ozzie is going through another fire sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) Best part about this is Ozzie is going through another fire sale. It would be awesome if the Sox could get Buehrle back with a load of cash for those last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This deal merely puts the Tigers in better position to compete with the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 turner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) Turner to Miami Suprised he was in trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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