caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 At least the Orioles are losing. Buchholz is shutting out the Rangers so far, not an easy thing to do. Pirates taking on a huge salary commitment there in Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Hey the Dbacks DFA'd Ryan Roberts. No doubt he'd give us better AB's than Gordon right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 02:05 AM) Beckham's timing is just awful. He's starting late and he's in his own head. Very little chance he recovers anytime soon. Yep, and now isn't the time for him to try and figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:04 PM) Obviously there's been some luck to it, not a lot of pitchers throw up a 2 ERA, but he also throws strikes consistently, plays behind a very good defense, lets his fielders make plays, and has a really good cutter that he's not afraid to throw inside, as well as some pretty good moxie for a pitcher his age. Anyone who doesn;t know that they're seeing a pretty good young pitcher is nuts. A good defense doesnt mean much if he misses his spots like that. He needs to hit them consistently. He has done that up until this game. Lets not crown him anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:04 PM) Obviously there's been some luck to it, not a lot of pitchers throw up a 2 ERA, but he also throws strikes consistently, plays behind a very good defense, lets his fielders make plays, and has a really good cutter that he's not afraid to throw inside, as well as some pretty good moxie for a pitcher his age. Anyone who doesn;t know that they're seeing a pretty good young pitcher is nuts. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 02:06 AM) A good defense doesnt mean much if he misses his spots like that. He needs to hit them consistently. He has done that up until this game. Lets not crown him anything yet. Sale got crushed on Saturday cause he missed his spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 03:03 AM) That pitch couldn't have been more in his wheelhouse to hit into the LF bullpen. Instead, he's doing that stupid windmill swing that has no chance but to pop it up to right. I have absolutely no problem with KW trying to trade him this week. Beckham can't hit. Trade him to an NL team so we can forget about him. If we trade him to an AL team, he'll just haunt us like so many former Sox do. I thought Beckham would be a star. He can't hit. The only way I'm for keeping Beckham is if his parents come to every game the rest of his career. Edited July 25, 2012 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Beckham should just do hair commercials with Brian Anderson, aka The Greatest American Hero. And stay in the bedroom with his g/f while enjoying his initial signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) I don't want to block, I just want you to know what you're watching every night. Sometimes Big Bang Theory. But tonight it was Hells Kitchen and Master Chef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) Sale got crushed on Saturday cause he missed his spots. Most of the time he can get away with that though. Which is why he is so good. He battles through that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) Hey the Dbacks DFA'd Ryan Roberts. No doubt he'd give us better AB's than Gordon right now.... Sox need Beckham's defense. Their staff pitches to contact A LOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) Hey the Dbacks DFA'd Ryan Roberts. No doubt he'd give us better AB's than Gordon right now.... 6 for his last 14... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 07:00 PM) See I dont think we found a diamond in the rough. I think to much has to go right for Quintana to pitch as well as he has been. I think he was lucky to be as successful as he has been. So he's had how many starts so far 10-12 ? . Pitched 8 shutout innings 3 times without getting a win. I'd say so far an awful lot is going right. He has exhibited very good control and has great mound presence. What does a rookie has to do to impress you ? It's called pitching . Might not have great stuff but did Buerhle / Maddox after 8-10 years in his career ? If you consistently hit your spot you're going to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 03:06 AM) A good defense doesnt mean much if he misses his spots like that. He needs to hit them consistently. He has done that up until this game. Lets not crown him anything yet. Coming into the game he allowed a homer every 2 starts. He let one player beat him on 2 bad pitches. It does happen in sports. They aren't robots. I don't understand why you think they're supposed to be perfect every night and if their not, then they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 03:07 AM) Sometimes Big Bang Theory. But tonight it was Hells Kitchen and Master Chef. I blocked that one rude new guy and it's been great not having to read his posts. Nobody responds to him so I don't have to see his posts in the quote box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Beckham isn't the only hitting problem, Tank needs to start hitting as well a 290 OBP, totally sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) Sale got crushed on Saturday cause he missed his spots. Just takes one or two. The slider to Austin Jackson. This time, Quintana just doesn't have enough velocity unless he's 3-5 inches inside. The first homer was even worse, that was right over the heart of the plate. This time, it seemed like he was guessing that exact location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:08 PM) So he's had how many starts so far 10-12 ? . Pitched 8 shutout innings 3 times without getting a win. I'd say so far an awful lot is going right. He has exhibited very good control and has great mound presence. What does a rookie has to do to impress you ? It's called pitching . Might not have great stuff but did Buerhle / Maddox after 8-10 years in his career ? If you consistently hit your spot you're going to do well. I dont think he can do it for a whole season. If he continues to pitch like he has in the first half you can quote this and put this in your sig. Ill gladly eat crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 03:07 AM) Sometimes Big Bang Theory. But tonight it was Hells Kitchen and Master Chef. Not to be too personal, but do you actually see the games on Extra Innings or mlb.tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 It sounds like Dbacks have a trade partner in mind for Roberts, so I'd be stunned if it was KW and the Sox. More likely to be a team like the A's or Orioles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:08 PM) Coming into the game he allowed a homer every 2 starts. He let one player beat him on 2 bad pitches. It does happen in sports. They aren't robots. I don't understand why you think they're supposed to be perfect every night and if their not, then they suck. I never said that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Haha, bullpen management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) Beckham isn't the only hitting problem, Tank needs to start hitting as well a 290 OBP, totally sucks. Except Viciedo has a league average OPS in LF at age 23. 729 Beckham's in his fourth season of professional baseball and is nearly 100 points worse. Only 4 2B are worse than him in OPS....Weeks, Weeks, Andino and Dustin Ackley. 642 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 03:10 AM) I dont think he can do it for a whole season. If he continues to pitch like he has in the first half you can quote this and put this in your sig. Ill gladly eat crow. No one in their right mind is expecting him to do that for a whole season. No one can; that's not the point. He can, however, be a very good pitcher for us this year and for years to come if he locates his pitches the way we've seen he's capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:10 PM) Not to be too personal, but do you actually see the games on Extra Innings or mlb.tv? No I look up into the sky and ask the birds the score of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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