What will Kenny do ?

[justBLAZE]

but he'll back in four years."

 

[Al Lopez's Ghost]

Jason Marquis has won 3 straight for the Padres. ERA is 3.48. That's gotta appeal to someone looking for a cheap veteran.

[Kyyle23]

Jason Marquis has won 3 straight for the Padres. ERA is 3.48. That's gotta appeal to someone looking for a cheap veteran.

 

That someone better not be the Sox

[caulfield12]

Jason Marquis has won 3 straight for the Padres. ERA is 3.48. That's gotta appeal to someone looking for a cheap veteran.

 

The typical Williams move is putting together a Top 3 for a playoff run.

 

Marquis doesn't qualify on that front, and hasn't succeeded in the AL.

[southsider2k5]

Unfortunately it looks like the chairman turned down what we all knew was a pipe dream. No Buerhls back.... Unless they pick up a bunch of salary. LOL JK. Here's a breif quote from a article about JR on ESPN Chicago:

 

Reinsdorf was asked about adding pitching to his playoff-contending club, specifically bringing back Mark Buehrle, considering Miami's so-called fire sale. Reinsdorf admitted he advised Buehrle to sign with the Marlins.

 

"The only thing I can tell you is when Mark told me he had a $56-million, four-year contract offer, I told him he should take it," Reinsdorf said. "I really told Mark he had to take it. At this stage of your career, it's more money than you're worth. He said he was going to take it, but he'll back in four years."

 

Link:http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=8200951&city=chicago

 

Holy crap there was some good stuff in that article. Apparently Jerry has turned into Ozzie when it comes to keeping secrets.

 

CHICAGO -- Speaking on a panel discussion about baseball in Israel, White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf was asked by a fan about the possibility of international expansion. He said he'd rather see two teams contracted.

 

"I don't see any baseball expansion right now," he said. "If it were up to me, I would contract two teams. But I certainly don't think expansion on the horizon."

 

When fans yelled, "What two teams?" Reinsdorf clammed up.

 

"I have a habit of getting myself into trouble," he said. "I just did yesterday. So I'm not going to (get in trouble)."

 

While the possibility seems unlikely today, these aren't Reinsdorf's first public comments about the possibility of eliminating teams. In early 2002, he spoke of the possibility of contracting the Minnesota Twins and the benefits it would have for then-owner Carl Pohlad, telling The New York Times: 'We're not doing Carl a favor. 'If the Twins are one of the teams and Carl lets us contract him, he'd be doing us a favor.''

 

Reinsdorf also said to expect "an international draft, except for Japan, in the next couple of years."

[Special K]

 

Roy Halladay

[oldsox]

Jason Marquis has won 3 straight for the Padres. ERA is 3.48. That's gotta appeal to someone looking for a cheap veteran.

He's a good pinch runner.

[Frank_Thomas]

I think someone like Joe Saunders is a Kenny under the radar like move. He has come back strong since his return from the DL, has AL experience. And has stuff that suits US Cellular Field well. Relatively cheap contract, 6 MIL this year. I don't think we would have to give up a lot for him.

 

Here is his stats this season:

 

 

Season Stats

TM G GS W L SV HOLD IP H R ER BB K CG SHO ERA WHIP

ARZ 16 16 5 6 0 0 100.0 106 45 39 25 71 1 1 3.51 1.31

 

 

Not a wow move but a guy with AL West expiernce and has great stuff.

[soxfan49]

Prospect to the Cubs for Malholm

Prospect to the Diamondbacks for Putz

 

That's it.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

No one predicted Liriano but my scenario about an experienced AL pitcher and not hurting the future of the team was right.

[GoodAsGould]

No one predicted Liriano but my scenario about an experienced AL pitcher and not hurting the future of the team was right.

 

Since I just called Liriano earlier today, my next prediction will be adding Chase Utley but that is kind of pushing it haha

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Since I just called Liriano earlier today, my next prediction will be adding Chase Utley but that is kind of pushing it haha

Not in my thread you didn't

[beautox]

After this move for Liriano; I would love for KW to see if Utley is available and move the likes of beckham and morel and a live arm for utley; yes hes a injury risk but push for this year and 2013 with peavy, youk and him. Accept the rebuild for 2014 if all else fails. We would be on the hook for 15m next year and the remainder of his contract this year.

[caulfield12]

No one predicted Liriano but my scenario about an experienced AL pitcher and not hurting the future of the team was right.

 

 

Right now, you're diligently identifying all those guys like Liriano, maybe Garza (because of the injury) or Maholm, Vargas, Blanton, Kevin Correia from the Pirates, Jorge DeLa Rosa...you find two of those guys that Cooper really likes (having perhaps identified a simple mechanical fix) and bring them in to audition for 2013. None of those guys would be starters that would be offered $12.5 million or more in arbitration. So basically, you've got a three-pronged approach.

 

1) You preserve Sale, Peavy and Quintana so they're able to go late into the season and post-season

2) You still have the option to use Danks but you don't have to force him into the rotation if he's not ready

3) You have the luxury to audition Floyd, Liriano and starter #6 for the 2013 team.

 

One of the better second tier pitchers, you can trade them Humber + a prospect (15-30) to acquire that guy.

The other one, you can use your depth of relief pitchers in combination with Johnson/Snodgress/Rienzo/Molina/Castro/Hernandez/Santiago.

 

It's going to be a BIT tricky passing pitchers through waivers, but not every team competing for the playoffs has the financial flexibility we do because of the Myers/Youk trades AND because of possible insurance money on the Danks contract.

[SOXOBAMA]

Gonzo believes the Sox will make 2 more deals.

[caulfield12]

Gonzo believes the Sox will make 2 more deals.

 

 

1) Thornton/Floyd (Crain's not tradeable until he proves he's healthy) for prospects

2) Utility guy/bench

3) Another pitcher in the Liriano or below tier

4) Still keeps open the conversation with Theo about Dempster if the Braves and Dodgers don't come through

[flavum]

Nothing will surprise me with Kenny, but I don't know why they'd move Floyd with Sale and Quintana never pitching this deep.

 

If nobody has picked up Emmanuel Burriss, he would be a decent choice.

[Paul R]

Hi there, 1st post, so here goes. I've thought for a while that Kevin Millwood makes too much sense. Right now with Sale, and Q exceeding the most innings they've ever pitched and Peavey coming back from a never-happened-before in baseball injury, we need a guy that takes the ball, throws innings and keeps us in the game. Seems like Millwood has consistently done that and probably could be had for very little since he's obviously not part of Seattle's future. Just my thought. Great to be here.

[iamshack]

Hi there, 1st post, so here goes. I've thought for a while that Kevin Millwood makes too much sense. Right now with Sale, and Q exceeding the most innings they've ever pitched and Peavey coming back from a never-happened-before in baseball injury, we need a guy that takes the ball, throws innings and keeps us in the game. Seems like Millwood has consistently done that and probably could be had for very little since he's obviously not part of Seattle's future. Just my thought. Great to be here.

Welcome!

[Frank_Thomas]

I don't think there is any doubt KW will go out and get a veteran utility guy. He hasn't made all these moves not to have a backup SS or quality backup infielder on the bench. And really when is the last time Orlando has even touched the field. No two ways KW gets a bench player, I just have no idea who is available.

[Frank_Thomas]

Found a list of "potentially" available SS/2B who could fit the utility role we need. List was compiled by MLBTR and listed on their website under 2012 trade deadline.

 

The trade market for shortstops looks thin this summer. Here’s a closer look:

 

Marco Scutaro, Rockies - Scutaro figures to draw considerable interest because he can play second base and shortstop while contributing at the plate. Though he’s mostly playing second in Denver, he has considerable experience at shortstop, including 27 games at the position in 2012. The 36-year-old infielder has a .277/.329/.372 batting line in 2012. He earns $6MM this year and will hit free agency this coming offseason.

Willie Bloomquist, Diamondbacks - The Diamondbacks could consider offers for Bloomquist once John McDonald returns from the disabled list. Bloomquist, 34, has a .294/.324/.393 batting line and earns $1.9MM per season for 2012 and 2013. Now that Stephen Drew is back, Bloomquist is on the bench.

Cody Ransom, Brewers - The Brewers could trade Ransom if they become sellers this month. The infielder has a .214/.313/.403 batting line in 177 plate appearances so far this year and has played shortstop 32 times.

Brendan Ryan, Mariners - Teams might be willing to overlook Ryan's .187/.287/.276 slash line because of his reputation as a tremendous defender. He's earning $1.75MM this year and will be arbitration eligible this coming offseason.

Jamey Carroll, Twins - Carroll, 38, has a .234/.318/.278 batting line and more than $5MM remaining on his contract with Minnesota, so he wouldn’t have much trade value.

Jed Lowrie, Astros - Lowrie is essentially unavailable, Ken Rosenthal reported five days ago. The Dodgers recently asked about Lowrie, who has an impressive .254/.343/.461 batting line in his first season as a National Leaguer.

Rumors and speculation surrounded Starlin Castro early on this year, but it appears that the 22-year-old is staying put.

 

2B

Marco Scutaro, Rockies - Scutaro will likely be traded, Troy Renck of the Denver Post wrote last month. The 36-year-old infielder has a .285/.336/.385 batting line and considerable experience at shortstop. He earns $6MM this year and will hit free agency this coming offseason.

Orlando Hudson, White Sox - It's been a rough year for Hudson, who lost his roster spot on the Padres then his starting job on the White Sox. If a team were to call about the 34-year-old, the White Sox would presumably listen.

Darwin Barney, Cubs - Rival teams have asked about Barney, but there's no reason for the Cubs to rush a deal. Barney won't even be arbitration eligible until after the 2013 season and he has an acceptable .264/.309/.371 batting line.

Mike Fontenot, Phillies - Fontenot's playing time has been reduced since Chase Utley returned from the disabled list. He's now a bench player with a .329/.372/.384 batting line and the ability to play multiple infield positions.

Chris Getz, Royals - Getz, now on the disabled list with a leg strain, had been playing well before his injury and could draw trade interest this summer.

Kelly Johnson, Blue Jays - As long as the Blue Jays don't fall too far out of contention, Johnson figures to stay in Toronto.

Jose Altuve, Astros - Despite some speculation that Altuve’s available, it seems far more likely that they’ll hold on. Just because Houston’s headed for another 100-loss season doesn’t mean Jeff Luhnow will trade a controllable middle infielder who’s playing at an All-Star level.

 

 

[Frank_Thomas]

I kinda like either Uribe if LAD picks up a significant portion of his contract or Mike Fotenot. Fotenot seems like an ideal fit, great glove, shows occasionally pop, does the small things right IE. SB, sac bunts, hitting to the right side. Either one of these guys would be amazing and would really round out this team nicely.

[caulfield12]

Found a list of "potentially" available SS/2B who could fit the utility role we need. List was compiled by MLBTR and listed on their website under 2012 trade deadline.

 

The trade market for shortstops looks thin this summer. Here's a closer look:

 

Marco Scutaro, Rockies - Scutaro figures to draw considerable interest because he can play second base and shortstop while contributing at the plate. Though he's mostly playing second in Denver, he has considerable experience at shortstop, including 27 games at the position in 2012. The 36-year-old infielder has a .277/.329/.372 batting line in 2012. He earns $6MM this year and will hit free agency this coming offseason.

Willie Bloomquist, Diamondbacks - The Diamondbacks could consider offers for Bloomquist once John McDonald returns from the disabled list. Bloomquist, 34, has a .294/.324/.393 batting line and earns $1.9MM per season for 2012 and 2013. Now that Stephen Drew is back, Bloomquist is on the bench.

Cody Ransom, Brewers - The Brewers could trade Ransom if they become sellers this month. The infielder has a .214/.313/.403 batting line in 177 plate appearances so far this year and has played shortstop 32 times.

Brendan Ryan, Mariners - Teams might be willing to overlook Ryan's .187/.287/.276 slash line because of his reputation as a tremendous defender. He's earning $1.75MM this year and will be arbitration eligible this coming offseason.

Jamey Carroll, Twins - Carroll, 38, has a .234/.318/.278 batting line and more than $5MM remaining on his contract with Minnesota, so he wouldn't have much trade value.

Jed Lowrie, Astros - Lowrie is essentially unavailable, Ken Rosenthal reported five days ago. The Dodgers recently asked about Lowrie, who has an impressive .254/.343/.461 batting line in his first season as a National Leaguer.

Rumors and speculation surrounded Starlin Castro early on this year, but it appears that the 22-year-old is staying put.

 

2B

Marco Scutaro, Rockies - Scutaro will likely be traded, Troy Renck of the Denver Post wrote last month. The 36-year-old infielder has a .285/.336/.385 batting line and considerable experience at shortstop. He earns $6MM this year and will hit free agency this coming offseason.

Orlando Hudson, White Sox - It's been a rough year for Hudson, who lost his roster spot on the Padres then his starting job on the White Sox. If a team were to call about the 34-year-old, the White Sox would presumably listen.

Darwin Barney, Cubs - Rival teams have asked about Barney, but there's no reason for the Cubs to rush a deal. Barney won't even be arbitration eligible until after the 2013 season and he has an acceptable .264/.309/.371 batting line.

Mike Fontenot, Phillies - Fontenot's playing time has been reduced since Chase Utley returned from the disabled list. He's now a bench player with a .329/.372/.384 batting line and the ability to play multiple infield positions.

Chris Getz, Royals - Getz, now on the disabled list with a leg strain, had been playing well before his injury and could draw trade interest this summer.

Kelly Johnson, Blue Jays - As long as the Blue Jays don't fall too far out of contention, Johnson figures to stay in Toronto.

Jose Altuve, Astros - Despite some speculation that Altuve's available, it seems far more likely that they'll hold on. Just because Houston's headed for another 100-loss season doesn't mean Jeff Luhnow will trade a controllable middle infielder who's playing at an All-Star level.

 

 

This is way out of date. Altuve is an All-Star and would be a huge upgrade over Beckham, same with Kelly Johnson.

 

Getz can't play SS well enough. Same with Fontenot.

 

Scutaro was just traded to the Giants.

 

Some of the shortstops might work, but KW isn't going to give up anything of significance for a back-up/bench guy.

 

I doubt they'd want to pay Bloomquist $1.9 million in 2013.

 

Ransom, Ryan and Carroll would be okay...but they're not going to spend a lot of money or talent on this one.

Edited July 29, 2012 by caulfield12

[Frank_Thomas]

This is way out of date. Altuve is an All-Star and would be a huge upgrade over Beckham, same with Kelly Johnson.

 

Getz can't play SS well enough. Same with Fontenot.

 

Scutaro was just traded to the Giants.

 

Some of the shortstops might work, but KW isn't going to give up anything of significance for a back-up/bench guy.

 

I doubt they'd want to pay Bloomquist $1.9 million in 2013.

 

Ransom, Ryan and Carroll would be okay...but they're not going to spend a lot of money or talent on this one.

 

Petty clear it's out of date however it is the only compiled list out there of potetially available players. I figured the majority of people could use their common sense to cross of those who either aren't available, been moved already, or doesn't fit our need. Just trying to provide some information to fuel converstation.

 

Plus most of these guys like Bloomquist, Fotenot, Carrol, Uribe won't cost much more than low-A prospects. But provide balance and bench expiernece to a team that desperately needs a quality backup IF since we lack it on the bench and minors now.

[Frank_Thomas]

Last year Fotenot's majority of appearances were at SS for the SF Giants. Here is his line as a SS.

 

Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% Rtot Rdrs Rtot/yr Rdrs/yr RF/9 RF/G lgFld%

 

SS 50 43 27 365.0 158 51 100 7 20 .956 -4 -3 -12 -9 3.72 3.02 .971 4.40 4.38

 

 

He can play all three INF spots we need, SS/3B/2B and brings a over .300 career BA. I think this dude fits perfectly!