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  1. 1. Choose the best organizations in baseball

    • White Sox
      14
    • Angels
      10
    • Rangers
      20
    • Braves
      8
    • Rays
      12
    • Cardinals
      17
    • Tigers
      2
    • Blue Jays (AA/J4L shout out)
      1
    • A's
      1
    • Nationals
      3
  2. 2. Most likely to recover and sustain success?

    • Pirates
      20
    • Twins
      18
    • Orioles
      7
    • Astros
      6
    • Rockies
      3
    • D-Backs
      5
    • Royals
      1
    • Indians
      9
    • Mariners
      2
    • Padres
      4


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Brewers and Giants barely missed the cut for differing reasons...eliminated Phillies, Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs and Red Sox just to make it interesting and create a tier or grouping that was perhaps the most similar to the White Sox in terms of revenue/resources/market.

 

No definition of "best" here.....winningest, best farm system, best fanbase, most economically efficient, best young players under 25, etc.

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Rangers are the best at the moment, between the stockpile of prospects and the huge amount of talent on the MLB roster, it's just unbelievable how stacked they are.

 

I think the Twins will get back into it, it'll be awhile though.

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I forgot to include Marlins in the 2nd list.

 

Nobody would vote for them now, unless they had a new ownership group and moved to another city/market.

 

 

I'm predicting right now all the other 29 teams will pool their money together with the MLB offices and create some sort of "super academy" (with the new Marlins Park as the centerpiece) for all the Latin American prospects to bring them to the US and get them away from their buscones in the Dominican, Colombia, Panama and Venezuela. This would level the playing field for Puerto Rican kids and create more parity with every team more affordably being able to scout the same prospects all available for the draft. You could build a massive complex of diamonds in the Little Havana area and have "mini-WBC" type games with the prospects for the various countries facing off against each other in semi-annual tournaments at the big stadium.

 

Asian players eventually could have their own training complex in California or Hawaii...probably CA, it would cost too much for the teams to get their scouts there, back and forth, but it would be a beautiful background, like when you had the Hawaii Islanders AAA team in the PCL.

 

 

 

 

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QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:11 AM)
Replace Yankees with Rangers, and you've got it.

27 world championships

Most recognizable team in all of sports.

Packed house every night.

Off the charts merchandise sales.

Their own TV network.

 

Come on. They're the best organization in all of American sports and it's not even close.

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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:07 AM)
The Yankees, and it's not even close.

 

They've been much less successful in the playoffs than the Rays, Phillies, Cardinals, Red Sox or Rangers.

 

 

It's like saying Manchester United is the best football club...once you start having this debate, they have five milllion advantages that make comparing them to other teams kind of a pointless intellectual exercise.

 

It's like those same debates about how Phil Jackson would have done away from the Lakers and Bulls, with a rebuilding or "average" NBA team.

 

Billy Beane as GM of the Yankees, or Terry Ryan, or Andrew Friedman.

 

Cashman running, let's say, the Padres.

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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 12:15 PM)
27 world championships

Most recognizable team in all of sports.

Packed house every night.

Off the charts merchandise sales.

Their own TV network.

 

Come on. They're the best organization in all of American sports and it's not even close.

 

They are actually run quite poorly. If they only had $100M to work with they'd be screwed. Just look at how many free agent signings have completely blown up on them

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:20 AM)
They are actually run quite poorly. If they only had $100M to work with they'd be screwed. Just look at how many free agent signings have completely blown up on them

You play the hand you're dealt. 27 world championships don't lie. If you want to have a discussion sans the Yankees, it's easily the Cardinals. Winning the whole damn thing is the end game, nothing else. You guys can pimp your prospect lists and organizations that overcome adversity, but the Yankees compete every year and have won more than anyone, period.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 10:20 AM)
They are actually run quite poorly. If they only had $100M to work with they'd be screwed. Just look at how many free agent signings have completely blown up on them

 

That's why I left the Red Sox off too.

 

Dice-K

Lackey

Crawford

JD Drew

Jenks

Jason Bay

Edgar Renteria

Matt Clement

Julio Lugo

John Smoltz

Brad Penny

Mike Cameron

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:20 AM)
They are actually run quite poorly. If they only had $100M to work with they'd be screwed. Just look at how many free agent signings have completely blown up on them

 

They are careless with money because they can afford to be, because they've built up such a great product that so significantly better than anything else out there.

 

The Yankees built from the same point everyone else built from. What they've done has worked, far better than any other sports team in America.

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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:15 AM)
27 world championships

Most recognizable team in all of sports.

Packed house every night.

Off the charts merchandise sales.

Their own TV network.

 

Come on. They're the best organization in all of American sports and it's not even close.

 

This is like saying Microsoft is the best technology company out there because they have the highest market cap.

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QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:37 AM)
They are careless with money because they can afford to be, because they've built up such a great product that so significantly better than anything else out there.

 

The Yankees built from the same point everyone else built from. What they've done has worked, far better than any other sports team in America.

 

It has nothing to do with the product. It has everything to do with being the original New York City team, in the biggest market in the USA.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:40 AM)
It has nothing to do with the product. It has everything to do with being the original New York City team, in the biggest market in the USA.

That's a cop out, bulls*** excuse. Compare the Yankees to the Cubs. The Yankees win, sell tickets, sell merchandise and dominate on a global level. I root for the underdog too. That doesn't mean I have to bury my head in the sand.

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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:43 AM)
That's a cop out, bulls*** excuse. Compare the Yankees to the Cubs. The Yankees win, sell tickets, sell merchandise and dominate on a global level. I root for the underdog too. That doesn't mean I have to bury my head in the sand.

 

It takes money to compete in baseball. They can afford to make gigantic mistakes that no one else in baseball can. Being able to outspend your stupidity isn't admirable, it is Donald Trump.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:45 AM)
It takes money to compete in baseball. They can afford to make gigantic mistakes that no one else in baseball can. Being able to outspend your stupidity isn't admirable, it is Donald Trump.

They've been able to channel their advantages to the tune of 27 world championships. 27! Somebody mentioned the Rangers earlier. They'd have to win every WS til 2025 to be in the discussion. I've heard of the Rangers before. They used to be called the Broncos.

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