Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) There are shoulder surgeries that have as little as 3 months recovery time. I almost got one for a more severe injury. The recovery time is a little bit different when you throw baseballs for a living, but I agree, they could find something very minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) Is there such thing as minor shoulder surgery? If he gets shoulder surgery, is 2013 a lost year for Danks? Way too hard to say, but if he had surgery now, he'd still have a pretty long-time until spring, which is a good thing. I can't imagine 2013 would be lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Is amazing how much the Sox rotation has changed cause of stuff. Who would have thought Quintana, Sale, Liriano, Floyd, Peavy and Humber would be the rotation? And with Sale apparently needing rest even he will probably not finish the season. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 01:50 AM) Yeah yeah yeah, hindsight. Wished it back then too. It was because I wanted to resign Buehrle with Danks' money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 02:49 AM) Is amazing how much the Sox rotation has changed cause of stuff. Who would have thought Quintana, Sale, Liriano, Floyd, Peavy and Humber would be the rotation? And with Sale apparently needing rest even he will probably not finish the season. Wow. Sale not having the endurance to get through a full season as a starter could have been predicted at the start of 2011 when they gambled on putting him in the bullpen for a full season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 01:49 AM) Is amazing how much the Sox rotation has changed cause of stuff. Who would have thought Quintana, Sale, Liriano, Floyd, Peavy and Humber would be the rotation? And with Sale apparently needing rest even he will probably not finish the season. Wow. Is this just speculation that Sale won't finish the season? I think we're overreacting about Sale. The Sox are going to go with a 6 man rotation to give Sale more rest between starts, but I have not seen any indication he will miss time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 08:19 AM) Sale not having the endurance to get through a full season as a starter could have been predicted at the start of 2011 when they gambled on putting him in the bullpen for a full season. And it was still the correct thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 A TON of assuming going on in this thread. It's like you want him to be badly hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 04:35 PM) Williams, meanwhile, said reports that left-hander John Danks could face season-ending surgery "was news to me". KW must get his newspapers delivered via carrier pigeon. See ya next year, John Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 08:30 AM) A TON of assuming going on in this thread. It's like you want him to be badly hurt. I'm pretty sure everyone would like Danks to be 100% and pitching for the White Sox. I also think if he's not going to pitch this year and is going to have surgery, most of us would rather he have it sooner than later so he can get back on the mound as quickly as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 "May need surgery". He has a freaking tear in the scapular of his throwing shoulder. Thats why his velocity was down and he was so bad and hittable before landing on the DL. Of course he is going to need surgery. It boggles my mind the sox had some sort of ray of hope he was going to magically recover and pitch at full form (with a torn scapula) by just shutting him down for 8 weeks. Do they have some magic pixy dust to heal muscle tears without surgery, do they have the magic soccer cold spray? I cant name a single pitcher that has ever had a scapular tear in his throwing shoulder and not had surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:46 AM) "May need surgery". He has a freaking tear in the scapular of his throwing shoulder. Thats why his velocity was down and he was so bad and hittable before landing on the DL. Of course he is going to need surgery. It boggles my mind the sox had some sort of ray of hope he was going to magically recover and pitch at full form (with a torn scapula) by just shutting him down for 8 weeks. Do they have some magic pixy dust to heal muscle tears without surgery, do they have the magic soccer cold spray? I cant name a single pitcher that has ever had a scapular tear in his throwing shoulder and not had surgery. Again, where are you getting this from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=85845 There is the thread on the grade 1 scapula tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) Danks has a Grade-1 strain of the subscapularis muscle... diagnosed in mid-June. Not initially thought to require surgery. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...ws&c_id=cws Referred to as a tear in this note from the Tribune... http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06...tter-mdgonzales Edited July 31, 2012 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Where is Dr. PTAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 09:46 AM) "May need surgery". He has a freaking tear in the scapular of his throwing shoulder. Thats why his velocity was down and he was so bad and hittable before landing on the DL. Of course he is going to need surgery. It boggles my mind the sox had some sort of ray of hope he was going to magically recover and pitch at full form (with a torn scapula) by just shutting him down for 8 weeks. Do they have some magic pixy dust to heal muscle tears without surgery, do they have the magic soccer cold spray? I cant name a single pitcher that has ever had a scapular tear in his throwing shoulder and not had surgery. Come on, man...are you really going to presume to know more than the medical staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I spent a few minutes looking on medical sites for treatment of this type of injury. Seems physical therapy is the first option. Surgery is not normally recommended for Grade 1 unless physical therapy doesn't provide results. Time period for therapy was described as normally 6-8 weeks. If he requires arthroscopic surgery, it says the normal recovery time would be 3-6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 12:00 PM) I spent a few minutes looking on medical sites for treatment of this type of injury. Seems physical therapy is the first option. Surgery is not normally recommended for Grade 1 unless physical therapy doesn't provide results. Time period for therapy was described as normally 6-8 weeks. If he requires arthroscopic surgery, it says the normal recovery time would be 3-6 months. I would add a few months for a pitcher after surgery. I think he's having surgery. The guy has no desire to throw right now. They need to find out what is really going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 10:46 AM) "May need surgery". He has a freaking tear in the scapular of his throwing shoulder. Thats why his velocity was down and he was so bad and hittable before landing on the DL. Of course he is going to need surgery. It boggles my mind the sox had some sort of ray of hope he was going to magically recover and pitch at full form (with a torn scapula) by just shutting him down for 8 weeks. Do they have some magic pixy dust to heal muscle tears without surgery, do they have the magic soccer cold spray? I cant name a single pitcher that has ever had a scapular tear in his throwing shoulder and not had surgery. The drama queen nature of sports fans is hilarious. I swear some you guys like the gossip more than the sport. They have TMZ for that. Crybabies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 11:04 AM) I would add a few months for a pitcher after surgery. I think he's having surgery. The guy has no desire to throw right now. They need to find out what is really going on. He got his contract ! Seriously, I really doubt this is true as Danks seems like a real stand up guy, but isn't it kind of strange that he always turned down the Sox offers in the past. I don't think that his deal was that big and he seemed like he was headed to free agency prior to his signing. Is it possible that he sensed that something was wrong at the end of last season and wanted to get his deal signed if it turned out serious? Edited July 31, 2012 by balfanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 QUOTE (balfanman @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) He got his contract ! Seriously, I really doubt this is true as Danks seems like a real stand up guy, but isn't it kind of strange that he always turned down the Sox offers in the past. I don't think that his deal was that big and he seemed like he was headed to free agency prior to his signing. Is it possible that he sensed that something was wrong at the end of last season and wanted to get his deal signed if it turned out serious? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 It's easy to figure out. What does Fangraphs say Danks' velocity was when he signed last year? Was it trending down? Is everyones hero Rick Hahn too big of an idiot to notice before he signed Danks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (balfanman @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) He got his contract ! Seriously, I really doubt this is true as Danks seems like a real stand up guy, but isn't it kind of strange that he always turned down the Sox offers in the past. I don't think that his deal was that big and he seemed like he was headed to free agency prior to his signing. Is it possible that he sensed that something was wrong at the end of last season and wanted to get his deal signed if it turned out serious? Its true, not because of desire, but he physically doesn't want to throw now. He will if they tell him to, but he's hurting. don't know what they have scheduled for me," said Danks, who hasn't thrown off a mound since Friday while recovering from a left shoulder strain. "I was kind of glad we didn't throw off the mound (Monday). It wasn't too bad, but I definitely like the break. It's not fun going out there and trying to push through something. But you've got to do what you got to do, and (if) they had me do it, I'll do it." Edited July 31, 2012 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 12:12 PM) The drama queen nature of sports fans is hilarious. I swear some you guys like the gossip more than the sport. They have TMZ for that. Crybabies. You might want to revisit this thread. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...t=0&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 If he does need surgery, what pisses me off is that Kenny could have traded him in the off-season and this team could have still been in contention since even when healthy Danks didn't contribute to the success of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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