fathom Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) Sounds like alot of issues, I hope PTAC weighs in on these. I wonder how much of this is normal wear and tear for someone who's been pitching professionally for a while? Also, any reason to expect velocity issues due to this injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hope Danks gets well over the winter with rest and rehab.............need him in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin Ventura on Danks' surgery: "He has your normal pitcher’s stuff, but nothing that they felt they had to fix." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Same thing as Byrdak? http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/8/6/32244...y?ref=fangraphs They make it sound more serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) Same thing as Byrdak? http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/8/6/32244...y?ref=fangraphs They make it sound more serious. That's not a positive sounding list. Apart from Santana, the following pitchers have also undergone anterior capsule surgery and their collective post-surgery performance and stability leaves much to be desired: Bret Saberhagen Mark Prior Chris Young Chien-Ming Wang Rich Harden Dallas Braden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 If that's the actual surgery he had, good bye velocity. Again, if that's true, Danks is going to have to completely revamp the way he pitches. His command would have to greatly improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I think everyone is just reacting on little information. I don't think this was anything but a minor surgery. However, it concerns me that he has struggled and had so many issues with something minor, that normally would have been fine. Either way, I'll wait until Ptact educates us on whats going on. Ptact...yeeesssss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) HE'S BACK b****ES. Meant this for gamethread. Ignore me. Edited August 7, 2012 by Quinarvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 02:44 AM) I think everyone is just reacting on little information. I don't think this was anything but a minor surgery. However, it concerns me that he has struggled and had so many issues with something minor, that normally would have been fine. Either way, I'll wait until Ptact educates us on whats going on. Ptact...yeeesssss! Yeah, for some reason, if it was the major surgery that Prior and Santana had, I feel like there's no way they think he'd be ready by spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:05 PM) Yeah, for some reason, if it was the major surgery that Prior and Santana had, I feel like there's no way they think he'd be ready by spring training. I get the feeling they did a minor clean-up while in there. And it wasn't more then that. THey also probably strengthened the shoulder as PT pointed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 03:10 AM) I get the feeling they did a minor clean-up while in there. And it wasn't more then that. THey also probably strengthened the shoulder as PT pointed out. I thought it was interesting that Danks said he was happy to get the chance to be healthy again. Makes you wonder how long this bothered him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 10:16 PM) I thought it was interesting that Danks said he was happy to get the chance to be healthy again. Makes you wonder how long this bothered him? He's been on the dl for 2.5 months already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 09:16 PM) I thought it was interesting that Danks said he was happy to get the chance to be healthy again. Makes you wonder how long this bothered him? Exactly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:24 PM) Same thing as Byrdak? http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/8/6/32244...y?ref=fangraphs They make it sound more serious. They didn't use the same name for the area operated on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:18 PM) @MDGonzales Danks had repair of capsular tear and minor debridements of the rotator cuff and biceps in his left shoulder. Will be in sling for 4 weeks @MDGonzales on track to be ready by spring training in 2013. This is pretty much what I was talking about earlier when they were so vague as to what was going on. The rotator cuff and biceps debridement are the "cleaning up" of normal wear and tear on a pitcher. The capsular repair is the key. He should recover just fine depending on how loose the capsule was. Hopefully, the surgeon was able to determine how tight it needed to be. With no real muscle damage his strength will be fine and the rehab will be quick. Either way he will be throwing again by Spring Training. It will be a 3-6 months rehab protocol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:24 PM) Same thing as Byrdak? http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/8/6/32244...y?ref=fangraphs They make it sound more serious. It's a similar injury but not as severe. In the case of Sanatana and Byrdak the tears were significant enough to find on the imaging exams. Danks' was not. It's like a mild ankle sprain that you walk off versus a severe ankle sprain the needs to go into a cast. They are both ankle sprains but the severity is different. Danks has a better prognosis and a better chance to return earlier than some of the others on that list. The other advantage he has is his young age compared to most on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 08:36 AM) It's a similar injury but not as severe. In the case of Sanatana and Byrdak the tears were significant enough to find on the imaging exams. Danks' was not. It's like a mild ankle sprain that you walk off versus a severe ankle sprain the needs to go into a cast. They are both ankle sprains but the severity is different. Danks has a better prognosis and a better chance to return earlier than some of the others on that list. The other advantage he has is his young age compared to most on the list. Great information. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Woohoo ptatc! Can we lock him up long-term? Give ptatc a Hamels-like contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I think this Danks' news is pretty close to best-case scenerio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) I think this Danks' news is pretty close to best-case scenerio. As far as surgery goes, you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Woohoo ptatc! Can we lock him up long-term? Give ptatc a Hamels-like contract. I'm a little worried that he might develop carpal tunnel and recommend a strict keystroke limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 09:17 AM) I'm a little worried that he might develop carpal tunnel and recommend a strict keystroke limit. I don't believe in keystroke limits. The wrist activity is not to just active keyboarding. There are many other activities that are done with the wrist and hand outside of keyboarding that could cause repetitive stress and thus cause the carpal tunnel. Edited August 7, 2012 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 10:43 AM) I don't believe in keystroke limits. The wrist activity is not to just active keyboarding. There are many other activities that are done with the wrist and hand outside of keyboarding that could cause repetitive stress and thus cause the carpal tunnel. If you put a limit on THAT, I quit Soxtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Aug 7, 2012 -> 09:52 AM) If you put a limit on THAT, I quit Soxtalk If that was the case, I'd be in the hate crime category for my keystroking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...s#disqus_thread Despite slow rehab, Danks targets spring return CHICAGO -- John Danks met with the media on Monday for the first time since undergoing surgery on Aug. 6 to repair his left shoulder, and the White Sox lefty remains cautiously optimistic about a healthy return by Spring Training 2013. "I'm not putting a whole lot of weight into the dates," said Danks, speaking with his left arm held in a large sling. "It's certainly a good goal, and it's my goal to be ready by spring, but things can happen. The goal is Spring Training, but I don't want to do anything to set us back any further by pushing it. "It's still new to me. Everything I know is just what was told to me. Fortunately, at this point, it hasn't been as bad as I expected, but I haven't gotten into the full rehab process. I hear that's a little tougher." Danks' arthroscopic surgery repaired a capsular tear and minor debridements of the rotator cuff and biceps, but it revealed a normal rotator cuff. The left-hander is unsure whether his rehab will take place in Dallas or Austin, but he is putting full trust in Dr. Anthony Romeo, who not only performed the surgery with Dr. Gregory Nicholson but also has gone through the same procedure himself recently. "During the first couple of weeks, it has been pretty slow moving," Danks said. "We'll have a better idea once rehab truly gets started cranking, but I've heard Spring Training so that's my goal now until I hear otherwise and I'm going to do everything in my power to make that happen." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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