Caesar Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:10 PM) Looking forward to tomorrows game. Liriano for the Sox and it's on TBS as the Sunday Afternoon National Broadcast Big game for Liriano tomorrow. Gotta take 2 of 3 from these guys since Detroit did a couple weeks ago at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I really hope that Ventura doesn't automatically bench AJ tomorrow, as the Sox need his bat in the lineup right now. AJ can get his rest on Tuesday against a LHP and then has Thursday off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:09 AM) Boston didn't release Lillibridge. They traded him to the Indians. They DFA'd him and then Cleveland worked out a trade. Technically you are correct though. My opinion is we should never have included him in a trade in the first place but I am very happy with getting Youkilis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:10 PM) Outfield. For who? The guys is making a s***load of money. Who you gonna bench? That would be assinine to trade for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:10 AM) nah, it's classic thornton. throw a high change to a guy when you're 3-2, 2 out, instead of your best pitch (aka, the fastball). It was a hanging curve/slider, and to be honest, he's gotten more outs on his offspeed pitch of late compared to his fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:11 AM) Big game for Liriano tomorrow. Gotta take 2 of 3 from these guys since Detroit did a couple weeks ago at home. Yes sir you are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:11 PM) I really hope that Ventura doesn't automatically bench AJ tomorrow, as the Sox need his bat in the lineup right now. AJ can get his rest on Tuesday against a LHP and then has Thursday off. You know damn well flowers will be in the lineup tomorrow along with Danks and possibly O dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:12 PM) For who? The guys is making a s***load of money. Who you gonna bench? That would be assinine to trade for him The obvious answer would be Viciedo, Pence is outperforming him. Plus, Viciedo would probably be required in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:12 AM) They DFA'd him and then Cleveland worked out a trade. Technically you are correct though. My opinion is we should never have included him in a trade in the first place but I am very happy with getting Youkilis What?! Lillibridge is TERRIBLE this season, and 2011 looks like an absolute fluke season for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:13 AM) You know damn well flowers will be in the lineup tomorrow along with Danks and possibly O dog Righties hit Haren a lot better than lefties do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:13 AM) What?! Lillibridge is TERRIBLE this season, and 2011 looks like an absolute fluke season for him. Heart and hustle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) Yeah, Ventura clearly is lacking in confidence in Reed right now. That's fine, I'm not upset with using Crain, Myers and Thornton. It was pitching to Kendrick with the open base that made zero sense. Doesn't Hunter PH for Wells then? Kendrick or Hunter, I think 'd rather face Kendrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:13 PM) The obvious answer would be Viciedo, Pence is outperforming him. Plus, Viciedo would probably be required in the deal. No thank you. I'll keep Viciedo. he isn't outperforming him as much as he should be with the money he is making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 11:13 PM) What?! Lillibridge is TERRIBLE this season, and 2011 looks like an absolute fluke season for him. LMAO I still can't get over the fact that he was hitting some absolute bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:13 PM) Righties hit Haren a lot better than lefties do Yeah, and Kendrick hits lefties better than Wells does, yet they still pitched to Wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:13 PM) The obvious answer would be Viciedo, Pence is outperforming him. Plus, Viciedo would probably be required in the deal. I wouldn't trade Viciedo for Pence. No way. But if that BS rumor about Jordan Danks and Jones for Pence were true, I'd take it and play him a lot in LF over Viciedo down the stretch and also use him to give the other outfielders a rest now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:14 PM) Doesn't Hunter PH for Wells then? Kendrick or Hunter, I think 'd rather face Kendrick. Then you bring in Reed to face Hunter. Id rather have Hunter facing Reed than Thornton facing Howie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 03:09 AM) Boston didn't release Lillibridge. They traded him to the Indians. He gets traded a lot. QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 03:10 AM) nah, it's classic thornton. throw a high change to a guy when you're 3-2, 2 out, instead of your best pitch (aka, the fastball). Thornton is a skinner version of Ohman. He's unreliable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I just love the fact that this lineup has some guys in it who are not afraid to get a clutch base hit down the stretch. Paulie (when right) AJ Rios Youk De Aza (been one of the most clutch) They are gonna have to be huge for us if we want to win this thing, & of course the random Dunn BOMBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:15 PM) I wouldn't trade Viciedo for Pence. No way. But if that BS rumor about Jordan Danks and Jones for Pence were true, I'd take it and play him a lot in LF over Viciedo down the stretch and also use him to give the other outfielders a rest now and then. One of Beckham or Viciedo can't be a full-time player over the next 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 It's a tough loss when you waste two Youk homers. The guys let him down tonight, couldnt complete the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 09:14 PM) Doesn't Hunter PH for Wells then? Kendrick or Hunter, I think 'd rather face Kendrick. Hunter was already in the game as a defensive replacement in RF. Once again, Matt Thornton in nearing the possibility of proving that a reliever on a winning team can lose 10 games in one season. Although not easy. And Thornton doesn't have a change, he has that little hanging slurve pitch, but not a straight change. He's actually thrown it with a lot more frequency to get hitters off his fastball, which has been down from the 96-97 and occasional 98 he used to throw. Callaspo is now 4/6 against Matt and drilled a center cut "slurve" into the gap. Pretty lucky he didn't hit it out. Viciedo hasn't done much since the Twins' final game last WED, although his last two swings were much better....and he also drove a fastball to RF but it hung up, at least he didn't pull hook it to 3B or SS on two hops. Beckham has had 3 homers robbed this year but he is finally back in the .220's and sinking into career oblivion if not for his defense. MOST IMPORTANTLY, this team needs Dunn and Konerko to hit in order to win. Period. And Hawk, thanks to you and the cameraman for giving us a heart attack there in the bottom of the 9th....wasn't meant to be, though. Angels are too good to lose 4 in a row...and you can't keep expending so much energy to get back into games that you're down 3 or 4 runs in the first couple of innings...or giving up 4-5 in the first two. Humber and Floyd have to be better and more consistent. Dangerous start tmrw for Liriano...and Septimo is the only long guy, and he's NOT that. We really need that extra guy back in the pen (Axelrod or Omogrosso or whoever) because Olmedo and Hudson on the same roster is basically pointless. We need a guy to play all 3 positions. Hudson can't play SS or 3B...Olmedo can't hit and is just a slightly above average defender. He's the guy who will only play in a complete blowout but never ever start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Then you bring in Reed to face Hunter. Id rather have Hunter facing Reed than Thornton facing Howie With the way Reed is throwing I'm not sure I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 04:23 AM) One of Beckham or Viciedo can't be a full-time player over the next 2 months. I know you'll get blasted on here for saying that, but I'm beginning to agree with you. Viciedo just doesn't bring enough to the table against RHP right now. As for the bullpen, I wish Ventura had more confidence in letting Nate Jones start an inning. Two straight games where he left the starting pitcher in way too long and both times resulted in a Pujols homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 09:23 PM) One of Beckham or Viciedo can't be a full-time player PITCHER over the next 2 months. You mean Humber or Floyd. The problem is that Quintana and/or Sale are both on their last legs. When you score 5 runs, you should win the game. Period. This game wasn't on the offense. The pitching staff needs to do better. Konerko, Dunn, Beckham and Viciedo are all struggling. But there's no way you can play Danks, Olmedo or Hudson. Viciedo is at least streaky and is due to get hot again. Someone's going to say...let's sign Abreu, but that's not the answer. He wasn't good enough for the Dodgers or the Angels this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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