Quin Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 07:52 PM) Would you rather hear about more gun laws that would have prevented this law breaking criminal from doing this, then? QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 07:55 PM) I was actually saying that in jest, it wasn't meant to be taken literally or seriously. Whenever a persons response to a situation like this either of the following: 1) "We need more gun laws criminals won't follow.", or 2) "Conceal and carry could have saved all of those people!", those saying those things are to be ignored because they've added nothing to the conversation. Well, I believe there should be more gun laws, but then people will still get guns. People always get illegal s***. That being said, it'd be a nice deterrent. QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 09:21 PM) A sikh activist twitter page is reporting that folks in the area saw a 9/11-related tattoo on the shooter, who was a white middle-aged male. Muslims in the area believe that Sikhs were not the intended target. Godf***ingdamnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 10:35 PM) I would think the media coverage of this incident will not be as great as the Colorado massacre. These things usually happen with a great amount of time between the first incident and second. These came so close together.... Because of that fact, this should get even more coverage, but the shock value isn't here because of the recent Colorado tragedy. Do all you TV folks agree with this? I think if we have one more incident like this in the next couple weeks, Obama is going to have to have an all-out assault on this type of crime. Our country is in serious jeopardy, folks. These incidents are starting to occur with great frequency, signaling a huge problem with society and values of people today. There's not going to be an "All out assault" on this type of crime any time during this type of election season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Southern Poverty Law Center: Shooter was lead singer of a White Supremacist rock band and had ties to Neo-Nazi organizations. Reuters: Shooter was dishonorably discharged in 1998 for being drunk on duty and other misconduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 11:21 AM) Southern Poverty Law Center: Shooter was lead singer of a White Supremacist rock band and had ties to Neo-Nazi organizations. Reuters: Shooter was dishonorably discharged in 1998 for being drunk on duty and other misconduct. Y2HH: Shooter was an assbag with a history of repeated assbaggery. Shooter should die a slow painful death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 12:42 PM) Y2HH: Shooter was an assbag with a history of repeated assbaggery. Shooter should die a slow painful death. Cops already killed him, I believe. Not before said assbag shot two of them, one of whom is in critical condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 According to a number of sources, the shooter has an army background, first working on some variety of missiles, then being moved into "psy-ops" psychological operations warfare, which is at least an interesting note. He had some behavior issues but received an honorable discharge in the late 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 12:51 PM) Cops already killed him, I believe. Not before said assbag shot two of them, one of whom is in critical condition. Sorry, I put should die...should have put should've died. I knew he was shot, I don't know why I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 12:32 PM) There's not going to be an "All out assault" on this type of crime any time during this type of election season. Yes, but if we have another one of these soon, it's like a national crisis will be upon us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) Yes, but if we have another one of these soon, it's like a national crisis will be upon us. There were 8700 murders involving guns in the US in 2010. That's about 3.5 of these per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 01:53 PM) Yes, but if we have another one of these soon, it's like a national crisis will be upon us. There is nothing the govt can do, there are costs when you live in a free society, this is one of them. Its already illegal to kill people, you cant make it more illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Horrible tragedy, however about this many people are shot in Chicago every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Guy's pretty clearly a white supremacist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) Guy's pretty clearly a white supremacist Wow, no brainer right there. Is that a screenshot of American History X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 01:49 PM) Guy's pretty clearly a white supremacist What a stupid f***ing fool. Hopefully the bullet that ended up taking him down took a while to work it's magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Celtic Cross? Confederate flag guitar strap? "14"? A f***ing NAZI flag? Why is this even a question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) Guy's pretty clearly a white supremacist Goddamnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) There is nothing the govt can do, there are costs when you live in a free society, this is one of them. Its already illegal to kill people, you cant make it more illegal. Sure you can! Make it a hate crime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) Sure you can! Make it a hate crime! yep, go ahead and trivialize hate crimes. hope you feel good about yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 05:36 PM) yep, go ahead and trivialize hate crimes. hope you feel good about yourself! Yes, because the thought of it is stupid. Additional punishment because of how you 'thought' about somneone. They are still just as dead, just as injured, just as aggrieved. But the great thought ppolice just wanna add that little bit extra in there to make some people feel better. You know what, he is allowed to hate people. You can't control his thoughts how ever much you and I may hate them. Punish his actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Wow, this is the first time I've heard someone argue against having hate crimes.... well first time hearing it from someone who wasn't part of a hate group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 06:11 PM) Wow, this is the first time I've heard someone argue against having hate crimes.... well first time hearing it from someone who wasn't part of a hate group. Every time something bad happens to a gay guy, or a Muslum, or whoever, it isn't always because they are gay, or Muslim. Sometimes they are just assholes, or sometimes just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Seriously, what does the addition of hate crimes add to anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 06:41 PM) Every time something bad happens to a gay guy, or a Muslum, or whoever, it isn't always because they are gay, or Muslim. Sometimes they are just assholes, or sometimes just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Seriously, what does the addition of hate crimes add to anything? Maybe because a white supremacist shot up a Sikh temple during there services? I severely doubt everyone in that temple was an asshole. I can't believe you're arguing against having hate crimes. That's astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 06:56 PM) Maybe because a white supremacist shot up a Sikh temple during there services? I severely doubt everyone in that temple was an asshole. I can't believe you're arguing against having hate crimes. That's astounding. And watch this morph into another 35-page garbage fest. Filibuster for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:01 PM) And watch this morph into another 35-page garbage fest. Filibuster for the win. It's not the Filibuster But seriously, that was uncalled for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:02 PM) It's not the Filibuster But seriously, that was uncalled for. I know it's not right now. The Trayvon Martin thread was originally in slam. As was the chick-filet crap. You know it's coming. And all the usual suspects will be involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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